RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control

From: Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com
Date: Mon Apr 21 2008 - 03:42:08 PDT

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    Mark,
    If you store or are a distributor of seafood, pasteurized crab, or raw
    shell stock you must have a HACCP Plan for each. I've been in the
    consulting business for 15 years and have been in the Meat and Seafood
    industry for over 40 years,and I am the Technical Services Manager at a
    Wholesale Meat and Seafood distributor in Miami and never have I heard the
    term, "accredited facility". Though some people may call, having a HACCP
    Plan an accreditation. A HACCP Plan is Mandatory under federal
    Regulations.Having at least on person that has taken an approved Seafood
    HACCP based certification training course is also required by FDA.
    Registering your facility with FDA, fulfills you requirement under The
    Homeland Security act. You can contact NOAA, in Boston or on-line and
    they offer seafood HACCP Training classes.If you need some one to write
    your HACCP Plan.You could contact me personally if you like. I've been
    doing this for over 15 years, for USDA at first and in the past 8 years
    for USDC/FDA and have also taken courses for importing seafood, from a
    recognized industry Seafood Import attorney and from the person who wrote
    FDA's Seafood operational manuals, Mary Snyder. I may not be the" fufu"
    consultant on the block, But I have common sense and have written over 200
    HACCP Plans in the last 15 years. Give me a call, at the least, I can
    send you in the right direction.
    Howard

    Howard Tenen
    Quality Control/Technical Services
    Manager
    Quirch Foods.
    Office: 305-691-3535 EXT 271
    Fax: 1-305-593-0272
    E-mail: Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com



    "Mark Freeman" <mark@saveonseafood.com>
    04/20/2008 11:06 AM

    To
    "Vanessa Broadnax" <vanessa@baldorfood.com>,
    <Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com>
    cc
    <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    Subject
    RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control






    Vanessa,
     
    What is a “HACCP accredited facility”?
    Who does the inspection and how does the documentation read?
    Does the FDA recognize it?
    I would like to have my facility accredited.
     
    Thank you
     
    Mark Freeman
     

    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On
    Behalf Of Vanessa Broadnax
    Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:25 PM
    To: Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com
    Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control
     
    Howard:
    It was previously discussed that a clarification was needed in regard to
    storage or process being the issue.
    Apparently, you missed that email. I do not process, so my only concern is
    storage.
    For your edification, I direct a HACCP accredited facility; and do so very
    well.
    My educational background and work experience have prepared me to properly
    run our operation.
    Thank you for all of your tips; however they are presumptive and solicited
    by me.
    No need to reply.
    Regards,
    Vanessa C.Broadnax, MS,Tech.Mgmt.CQA,CMQOE
    HACCP Manager
    Baldor Specialty Foods Inc.
    511 Barry Street
    Bronx, New York 10474
    Telephone: 718.304.4536
    Fax: 718.328.9944
    Committed To Food Safety

    From: Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com [mailto:Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com]
    Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:02 AM
    To: Vanessa Broadnax
    Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: Fw: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control
     
     

    Howard Tenen/Quirch
    04/18/2008 07:03 AM


    To
    "David Doble" <DDoble@pacseafood.com>
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    Subject
    RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen ControlLink
     


     
     



    Vanessa,
    David is right. C.Bot does not come into effect in this process. Listeria
    is the only issue. In your clean down process, You should be using a
    Quaternary Sanitizer on all food contact surfaces, this inhibits the
    growth of L. Monocytogenes. You should have as part of your HACCP Plan, or
    in you SSOP a written procedure for Listeria reduction either by and
    approved additive to the smoking process or at the minimum, in your clean
    down.As far as your product in the cold smoke process, I understand that
    here are a few companies using a LACTIC Bacteria or a Strain of C.
    piscicola to inhibit the growth of Listeria in the vacuum package. This
    bacteria ( C. piscicola) drastically reduces L. m. in the package and does
    not effect the flavor profile.

    Howard

    Howard Tenen
    Quality Control/Technical Services
    Manager
    Quirch Foods.
    Office: 305-691-3535 EXT 271
    Fax: 1-305-593-0272
    E-mail: Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com

    "David Doble" <DDoble@pacseafood.com>
    Sent by: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu
    04/17/2008 04:01 PM


    To
    "Vanessa Broadnax" <vanessa@baldorfood.com>, <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
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    Subject
    RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control
     


     
     




    Thanks Vanessa, I should have clarified....

    C. bot is not an issue for storage as it is a frozen storage.

    The target pathogen for control would be L. monocytogenes.

    the challenge is created when cold smoking as temperatures do not reach a
    kill level for L.m.

    Looking to see what information folks may have on the control of Lm in
    cold smoked fish.

    thanks!!

    David

    David Doble
    QC Manager
    Pacific Seafood
    Pacific Smoking
    16797 SE 130th
    Clackamas Oregon 97015
    503-905-4582
    ddoble@pacseafood.com
    "Inspect what you Expect"

    P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to




    -----Original Message-----
    From: Vanessa Broadnax [mailto:vanessa@baldorfood.com]
    Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:59 PM
    To: David Doble; seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control


    Good Afternoon:
    Please keep it at 38*F or under to control Clostridium Botulinum.
    Regards,
    Vanessa C.Broadnax, MS,Tech.Mgmt.CQA,CMQOE
    HACCP Manager
    Baldor Specialty Foods Inc.
    511 Barry Street
    Bronx, New York 10474
    Telephone: 718.304.4536
    Fax: 718.328.9944
    Committed To Food Safety

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On
    Behalf Of David Doble
    Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:33 PM
    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control

    Was wondering if anyone would like to share with their experience with
    controlling Pathogens in Cold Smoked Salmon.

    Any input would be appreciated.

    David

    David Doble
    QC Manager
    Pacific Seafood
    Pacific Smoking
    16797 SE 130th
    Clackamas Oregon 97015
    503-905-4582
    ddoble@pacseafood.com
    "Inspect what you Expect"

    P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to





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