Fw: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control

From: Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com
Date: Fri Apr 18 2008 - 08:02:14 PDT

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    Howard Tenen/Quirch
    04/18/2008 07:03 AM

    To
    "David Doble" <DDoble@pacseafood.com>
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    Subject
    RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control

    Vanessa,
    David is right. C.Bot does not come into effect in this process. Listeria
    is the only issue. In your clean down process, You should be using a
    Quaternary Sanitizer on all food contact surfaces, this inhibits the
    growth of L. Monocytogenes. You should have as part of your HACCP Plan, or
    in you SSOP a written procedure for Listeria reduction either by and
    approved additive to the smoking process or at the minimum, in your clean
    down.As far as your product in the cold smoke process, I understand that
    here are a few companies using a LACTIC Bacteria or a Strain of C.
    piscicola to inhibit the growth of Listeria in the vacuum package. This
    bacteria ( C. piscicola) drastically reduces L. m. in the package and does
    not effect the flavor profile.

    Howard

    Howard Tenen
    Quality Control/Technical Services
    Manager
    Quirch Foods.
    Office: 305-691-3535 EXT 271
    Fax: 1-305-593-0272
    E-mail: Howard.Tenen@quirchfoods.com

    "David Doble" <DDoble@pacseafood.com>
    Sent by: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu
    04/17/2008 04:01 PM

    To
    "Vanessa Broadnax" <vanessa@baldorfood.com>, <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    cc

    Subject
    RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control

    Thanks Vanessa, I should have clarified....

    C. bot is not an issue for storage as it is a frozen storage.

    The target pathogen for control would be L. monocytogenes.

    the challenge is created when cold smoking as temperatures do not reach a
    kill level for L.m.

    Looking to see what information folks may have on the control of Lm in
    cold smoked fish.

    thanks!!

    David

    David Doble
    QC Manager
    Pacific Seafood
    Pacific Smoking
    16797 SE 130th
    Clackamas Oregon 97015
    503-905-4582
    ddoble@pacseafood.com
    "Inspect what you Expect"

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Vanessa Broadnax [mailto:vanessa@baldorfood.com]
    Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:59 PM
    To: David Doble; seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: RE: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control

    Good Afternoon:
    Please keep it at 38*F or under to control Clostridium Botulinum.
    Regards,
    Vanessa C.Broadnax, MS,Tech.Mgmt.CQA,CMQOE
    HACCP Manager
    Baldor Specialty Foods Inc.
    511 Barry Street
    Bronx, New York 10474
    Telephone: 718.304.4536
    Fax: 718.328.9944
    Committed To Food Safety

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On
    Behalf Of David Doble
    Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:33 PM
    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: Smoked Lox Pathogen Control

    Was wondering if anyone would like to share with their experience with
    controlling Pathogens in Cold Smoked Salmon.

    Any input would be appreciated.

    David

    David Doble
    QC Manager
    Pacific Seafood
    Pacific Smoking
    16797 SE 130th
    Clackamas Oregon 97015
    503-905-4582
    ddoble@pacseafood.com
    "Inspect what you Expect"

    P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to



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