Re: C Bot and homarus Americanus

From: Brendan McHugh (criticalcontrolpoints@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Feb 18 2008 - 04:58:02 PST

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    Although Type E is a marine version, there is some overlap with Type A, specially for bottom feeders near the coast. Even more specially where salmon cages may be around, any feed that misses the salmon cage will be eaten by bottom feeders such as lobster and the feed is not sterile. (also may contain medications and canthaxanthin)
    If the product is a low acid food and the only hurdle to growth of C. botulinum is refrigeration then there is a risk. Presumably in a chill soup the amount of heat treatment is held to a minimum so the product has not undergone heat treatment sufficient to kill spores of Type E or A but probably has killed off vegetative cells.

    There are probably only two further methods. Time temperature indicators (TTI) or the use of Nisin.

    I have no info on enzymes or Nisin.

    "Keith E. Molesworth" <keith.molesworth@chesapeakegardens.com> wrote: I have some questions about c bot type e and the nonproteolytic forms
    types b&f with regard to the North American Lobster
    Are these pathogens specifically associated with the species homarus
    americanus. Is the presence of lysozymes that may aid pathogen spore
    survival a concern. What are some CCP measures one might employ in a
    cook chill soup process with MAP packaging and refrigerated distribution
    to preclude toxin formation

    Thank you

    Keith Molesworth
    Culinary Director
    Chesapeake Gardens

    Brendan McHugh

    CCP International



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