RE: Cod and Alaska pollack

From: Roy Palmer (palmerroy@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Oct 17 2007 - 17:30:45 PDT

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    Interesting topic for me
    I contacted CSIRO in Hobart - Bob Ward - expert regarding DNA fish issues
    and he commented
    Quote
    I'd like to hear more about the UK test. Seems very odd.

    The test we (and most other labs use) is a mitochondrial DNA test - and
    there's no easy way this can show two species as it is inherited only from
    mum and is a non-recombining molecule. I have never heard of an individual
    having mtDNA from more than one species and don't see how it could happen.

    If it's a real documented result, not just an unattributable anecdote, and
    if it was a mtDNA test, it could indicate contamination of the sample
    somewhere, somehow.

    If it was a nuclear DNA test (somewhat unlikely), then past hybridization
    (if it occurred) would make it possible to detect two species in a single
    tissue sample. But not for a mtDNA test. Although for a mtDNA test, past
    hybridization would make it possible to show the DNA of either past parental
    species in a descendant (but not both).
    Unquote

    Hope this helps
    Cheers roy

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf
    Of Surefish Bellingham
    Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 8:46 AM
    To: Jon McGraw; 'John Sackton'; 'Richard Chivers'
    Cc: 'seafood'
    Subject: Re: Cod and Alaska pollack

    Cross contamination is what I thought when I read the original inquiry.

    I do lot inspections on H&G cod and pollock. It isn't uncommon to find a
    pollock mixed in with the cod. In this situation pollock isn't what the
    fishing boat is targeting, but at the same time they separate the pollock
    and also do H&G pollock. The fish look somewhat similar, but a trained eye
    can distinguish them. I can't remember ever seeing cod mistakenly mixed in
    with the pollock though...

    Mark Neely
    Surefish

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jon McGraw" <JonMcGraw@seafreeze.com>
    To: "'John Sackton'" <jsackton@seafood.com>; "'Richard Chivers'"
    <richard@fishonline.co.uk>
    Cc: "'seafood'" <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:12 PM
    Subject: RE: Cod and Alaska pollack

    > Bingo, John's spot on IMHO.
    >
    > Jon McGraw
    > Seafreeze
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: John Sackton [mailto:jsackton@seafood.com]
    > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:01 PM
    > To: Richard Chivers
    > Cc: seafood
    > Subject: Re: Cod and Alaska pollack
    >
    > Why would this most likely not be an example of cross contamination.
    > Many factory trawlers fish for both cod and pollock. A fillet
    > inspection line, for example, could easily be a site of cross
    > contamination between the two species.
    >
    > Alternatively, this could have been a thawed fillet from frozen H&G
    > cod, and the same factory could also be producing Alaska pollock
    > fillets. The entire handling history of the fillet would have to be
    > traced to determine where the AK pollock dna came from.
    >
    > If this was from a fillet block, there is a practice of using minced
    > fish along with whole fillets in some blocks -- this could be another
    > source, if minced pollock was used instead of minced cod.
    >
    > best
    >
    >
    > John Sackton
    > Seafood.com News
    >
    > On 10/17/07, Richard Chivers <richard@fishonline.co.uk> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear All,
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> A sample of cod was analysed by a UK Public Analyst using a DNA
    >> sequencing
    >> and he found evidence of DNA of more than one species. They have
    >> confirmed
    >> cod, but also detected Alaskan pollack, and possibly one more species.
    >> The
    >> sample was just a fillet of fish, presumably cod, taken at retail.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Does anyone know of cod interbreeding with Alaska Pollack. The sample
    >> was
    >> taken in the UK and I would normally expect this to indicate Gadus morhua
    >> but it is possible that Gadus macrocephalus had sneaked in some how.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Thank you in advance.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Richard Chivers
    >>
    >> Seafood Audit International
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    > --
    > John Sackton
    > Seafood.com News
    >
    >
    >



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