RE: Auditing Quality Systems

From: Vanessa Broadnax (vanessa@baldorfood.com)
Date: Wed Aug 15 2007 - 05:38:53 PDT

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    Good Morning:

    The following link gives a nice overview. http://www.praxiom.com/iso-22000.htm

    Regards,

     

    Vanessa C.Broadnax, MS,Tech.Mgmt.CQA,CMQOE

    HACCP Manager

    Baldor Specialty Foods Inc.

    511 Barry Street

    Bronx, New York 10474

    Telephone: 718.304.4536

    Fax: 718.328.9944

    Committed To Food Safety

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    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf Of Le Xuan Nhat
    Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:30 PM
    To: Remi Michalowski
    Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: Re: Auditing Quality Systems

     

    Hello every body

    I want to know detials information Standard ISO 22000, Please give me this information.

    thanks

    _______________________________________________________________________________________
    Le Xuan Nhat (Mr)
    Quanlity Assurance Expert
      

     

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            ----- Original Message -----

            From: Remi Michalowski <mailto:remi.michalowski@cpp.co.id>

            To: Cc:

            Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:16 AM

            Subject: Re: Auditing Quality Systems

             

             

            ISO 22000 is a management system, international standard to support your FSMS. It pushes companies to provide results e.g. the main issue for retailers is that the company can select and implement the control measures they want, once they manage the risks identified and that the system meets the targets established.

             

            Private standards such BRC and IFS, all is means e.g. investments. BUT, more and more nowadays, this "prerequisite" to be able to sold to retailers becomes less "trusted" by the retailers: they have a list of "approved" CB and some have their own requirements much more demanding !!

             

            In conclusion, ISO 22000 very good for developing countries and to meet legal requirements but demanding on results and also on money (audit, competence). BRC very demanding on means and facilities but less trusted by the UK retailers.

             

            Please note that IFS is a bit "better" than BRC as it integrates legal requirements such as traceability, GMO and allergens. but the standard is still a private one and only valuable if you process retailers' branded products.

             

            Rgds,

             

            

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            On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:30 PM, Chingling Tanco wrote:

            
            
            

            I agree it's getting crazy - in Europe for example - the UK wants the BRC

            (British Retail Consortium) standard while France and Germany want the IFS

            International Food Standard system and they are almost the same but called

            different names. Suggestion for those plants going for BRC certification -

            ask for IFS certification to be done at the same time as this shouldn't cost

            you much more.

             

            Chingling Tanco

            Mida Trade

            Manila, Philippines

             

             

                    From: Vanessa Broadnax <vanessa@baldorfood.com>

                    Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:12:01 -0400

                    To: <criticalcontrolpoints@yahoo.com>, <seafood@ucdavis.edu>

                    Conversation: Auditing Quality Systems

                    Subject: Re: Auditing Quality Systems

                     

                    Sometimes more is good. We need to keep food safety in the forefront. We can

                    not afford not to look at different points of view. Different views keeps us

                    on our toes. We must manage our time and efforts wisely.

                     

                    ----- Original Message -----

                    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu <owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu>

                    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu <seafood@ucdavis.edu>

                    Sent: Thu Aug 09 19:57:07 2007

                    Subject: Auditing Quality Systems

                     

                    I seem to spend a lot of time being accredited to one quality system or

                    another and then meeting with Processors who complain that there are so many

                    systems that they have to become documenters for each system with differing

                    needs.

                     

                    Any comments on relative merits of the differing systems ?

                    (without especially trashing systems by name)

                     

                    My two cents, for what it is worth, is that ISO 22000 will probably replace

                    everything else eventually. ( it has HACCP components so is on-topic)

                     

                    Other views anyone?

                     

                     

             

             

            
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