Re: Auditing Quality Systems

From: Francisco Blaha (francisco@ihug.co.nz)
Date: Sun Aug 12 2007 - 00:40:03 PDT

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    Hi Chinling

    Here is my 5 cents, the UK or France can't ask you to do any of these
    private schemes, this is surely a requirement of your clients there, but in
    no way an "official" requirement.

    All what you need for EU market access is to be listed by your Competent
    Authority in the list they provide the the EC.

    The Philippines is listed as an "approved country" by the EU and if you are
    in the list of Approved establishments, that's it.

    Hence if your client does not trust neither your CA, neither the EU FVO that
    visits the country and "approves" it, then those 3rd party certification are
    a commercial issue in between your buyer and your self.

    Cheers 

    -- 
Francisco Blaha
www.franciscoblaha.com

    On 12/8/07 3:30 AM, "Chingling Tanco" <crt@mida-group.com> wrote:

    > I agree it's getting crazy - in Europe for example - the UK wants the BRC
> (British Retail Consortium) standard while France and Germany want the IFS
> International Food Standard system and they are almost the same but called
> different names.  Suggestion for those plants going for BRC certification -
> ask for IFS certification to be done at the same time as this shouldn't cost
> you much more.
> 
> Chingling Tanco
> Mida Trade
> Manila, Philippines
> 
> 
>> From: Vanessa Broadnax <vanessa@baldorfood.com>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:12:01 -0400
>> To: <criticalcontrolpoints@yahoo.com>, <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
>> Conversation: Auditing Quality Systems
>> Subject: Re: Auditing Quality Systems
>> 
>> Sometimes more is good. We need to keep food safety in the forefront. We can
>> not afford not to look at different points of view. Different views keeps us
>> on our toes. We must manage our time and efforts wisely.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu <owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu>
>> To: seafood@ucdavis.edu <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
>> Sent: Thu Aug 09 19:57:07 2007
>> Subject: Auditing Quality Systems
>> 
>> I seem to spend a lot of time being accredited to one quality system or
>> another and then meeting with Processors who complain that there are so many
>> systems that they have to become documenters for each system with differing
>> needs.
>> 
>> Any comments on relative merits of the differing systems ?
>> (without especially  trashing systems by name)
>> 
>> My two cents, for what it is worth, is that ISO 22000 will probably replace
>> everything else eventually. ( it has HACCP components so is on-topic)
>> 
>> Other views anyone?
>> 
>>

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