Re: info required

From: P Howgate (phowgate@clara.co.uk)
Date: Mon Jul 30 2007 - 02:04:19 PDT

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    I think this paper might be:

    Wekell, J.C. et al., 1983, Implications of reduced sodium usage and problems
    in fish and shellfish, Food Technology, 37(9), 51-58, 63.

    Sorry I do not have a copy myself, but you can possible get one through your
    local library. At least that is how I get copies of publications including
    papers from journals.

    There is a discussion of and data on salt uptake in brine stored and brine
    frozen tuna in:

    Burns, F.D. (1985), Tuna handling and refrigeration on purse seiners. NOAA
    Technical Memorandum NMFS-SWR-011.

    There is also a literature on salt uptake in brining of fish for curing, but
    much of this is in old, a few decades ago, publications and most is oriented
    towards time to complete salting rather than to uptake in initial stages.

    Peter Howgate

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jack Wekell" <jwekell@gmail.com>
    To: <listproc@ucdavis.edu>; <pdtom@ucdavis.edu>; <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:30 AM
    Subject: Re: info required

    > Samuel
    > Yes you will get salt penetration even though you are using a freezing
    > brine. If you leave the fish in the brine after it has frozen solid, given
    > time it will slowly absorb salt and the fish will become soft and pliable;
    > however, extremely salty to the point of being inedible. You should use
    > the brine to quickly freeze the fish and then pump out the brine and store
    > the frozen product in dry freezer storage. You want the brine to be close
    > to saturated and the temperature as low as possible, i.e., 0F or about -18
    > to -20C. You will have to determine the appropriate ratios of brine to
    > fish in order to maintain the freezing temperatures.
    >
    > Please see the papers by John C. Wekell and Fuad Teeny in Food
    > Technology, we wrote them about 20 years ago, and they deal with fish such
    > as rockfish (Pacific Coast) and salmon. I would send you copy but I have
    > since retired and can't find the original reprints. If I find them, I will
    > send you copy (PDF format).
    >
    > John C. Wekell, Ph.D.
    > Retired
    >
    > samuel joseph wrote:
    > Dear All,
    >
    > I have a quiery regarding brine freezing.
    >
    > I woulf like to know that whether there will be any salt
    > penetration if we freeze cephalopods, whole round in brine freezer.
    >
    > Is there any relation between temperature of the brine and
    > salt penetration. If yes what will be the ideal temperature of the brine
    > to be maintained sothat salt penetration can be avoided.
    >
    > Thanks to all,
    >
    > Besr Regards,
    >
    > Samuel.
    >
    >
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