RE: 'canned' Anchovy - shelf stable or must refrigerate?

From: Nolte, Fred (Fred.Nolte@cloverleaf.ca)
Date: Sun Jul 22 2007 - 06:15:22 PDT

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    Dear Gindra,

     

    Please see my comments to Peter Howgate. Refrigeration is necessary to
    prevent spoilage in highly salted product after approximately 12 months.
    The only low salt pack I am aware of is thermally processed to be
    commercially sterile.

     

    Fred

     

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    From: NUSA NET [mailto:gindra@nusa.net.id]
    Sent: July 20, 2007 1:52 AM
    To: Nolte, Fred; Christian Vogl
    Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu; patra@indosat.net.id
    Subject: Re: 'canned' Anchovy - shelf stable or must refrigerate?

     

    Dear Fred,

     

    I think you are right. I myself has never seen the anchovy processed by
    pasteurization method. I was trying to relate what we do for our
    products. We are the pasteurized crabmeat producer and maybe the first
    processor in the world that pasteurized the squid in the can and pouch.

     

    I think your reasoning is correct that the refrigerated anchovy pack
    could be due to the low salt contents. Thank you!

     

    Best regards,

    Gindra

            ----- Original Message -----

            From: Nolte, Fred <mailto:Fred.Nolte@cloverleaf.ca>

            To: NUSA NET <mailto:gindra@nusa.net.id> ; Christian Vogl
    <mailto:cvogl@shafer-haggart.com>

            Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu ; patra@indosat.net.id

            Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:48 PM

            Subject: RE: 'canned' Anchovy - shelf stable or must
    refrigerate?

             

            Dear Gindra,

             

            Most interesting. Have never heard of an anchovy pack which was
    pasteurized, let alone thermally processed to be shelf stable. To be
    clear, I wonder if we are talking about anchovies packed in oil and
    highly salted (ie: 14% salt or higher in the aqueous portion)? Or are we
    discussing a pack with lower salt (perhaps 1%) in a pack similar to
    sardines?

             

            Fred

            
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            From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu
    [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf Of NUSA NET
            Sent: July 17, 2007 11:27 PM
            To: Christian Vogl
            Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu; patra@indosat.net.id
            Subject: Re: 'canned' Anchovy - shelf stable or must
    refrigerate?

             

            Dear Christian,

             

            The products that you were discussing with your Australian
    friend may be of different nature compared to the ones in Canada. When
    the canned Anchovy is processed by sterilization, meaning the processed
    temperature is around 121 Celsius degree, then the product is shelf
    stable. However if the products are pasteurized, meaning cooking below
    100 Celsius degree, then the products have to be kept chilled unless it
    is an acid food.

             

            I hope the above explanation is clear to you.

             

            Best regards,

            Gindra Tardy

                    ----- Original Message -----

                    From: Christian Vogl <mailto:cvogl@shafer-haggart.com>

                    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu

                    Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:11 AM

                    Subject: 'canned' Anchovy - shelf stable or must
    refrigerate?

                     

                    We have a customer in Australia who tells us that
    anchovy in cans (packed in oil) are sold 'shelf stable' there.

                    Here, we refrigerate them.

                    It was always my understand that this was required
    because of the lack of thermal processing. But if this is the case, how
    can Australian stores market them on the shelves instead of the cooler?

                    Any thoughts appreciated!

                    Best regards,

                    Christian



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