The EU inspections and the chlorinated water

From: Francisco Blaha (francisco@ihug.co.nz)
Date: Sat Jan 13 2007 - 04:10:59 PST

  • Next message: Remi Michalowski: "Re: The EU inspections and the chlorinated water"

    Hello all

    As far as I understand it (mostly by having endure various EU visits), the
    rationale behind is that only potable water is to be in contact with the
    product, and they normally base their judgement on the local requirement for
    chlorine in potable water (around .5 to 1ppm in most countries). Hence water
    that has more than that is hyper chlorinated and not potable, therefore
    should not be in contact with the product.

    Hope it helps

    Best regards

    -- 
    Francisco Blaha
    www.franciscoblaha.com
    

    On 12/1/07 3:08 AM, "Remi Michalowski" <remi.michalowski@cpp.co.id> wrote:

    > Hello Chingling, > > Happy new year, all my best wishes for 2007. > > Indeed if u look at the EU legislation on biocidal compounds, the peracetic > acid is unfortunately not registered as washing aid to be used in contact with > foodstuffs, but u can still use it for water disinfection (like the sodium > hypochlorite). > > Abt the 5 to 10 ppm in the water, u can still try to push Philippines and > other ASEAN countries to sue SANCO through WTO as Codex Alimentarius still > recommend the use of chlorinated water in contact with fishery products (max > 10 ppm) until the Guidance on the use of chlorinated water is issued. > > Rgds, > > Dipl. Ing. Remi Michalowski > Deputy General Manager IQA Food Processing > PT. Centralpertiwi Bahari - Lampung, Indonesia > HP x2B; 62 815 4040 484 > Yahoo Messenger ID: michalowski_rmi@yahoo.fr > > CPB - Integrated Shrimp Farming. "From Pond to Plate" > A CPP Company. Member of Charoen Pokphand Group > > > On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:11 AM, Chingling R. Tanco (mida) wrote: > >> Question: >> Your using chlorinated water in the chiller ­ does this mean a chiller as in >> refrigerator or chilling water used for the fillets? >> Doesnıt Europe frown on the use of chlorine on any water used for the product >> and if this Is correct, wouldnıt they also frown on peracetic acid? >> EU officials recently visited the Philippines and Indonesia and one of the >> main criticisms is that chlorinated water at levels of even as low as 5-10% >> in any wash water that would come in contact with product ­ whether with skin >> or not, is frowned upon. The problem was that many plants had this >> chlorinated wash in their HACCP plans because it was/is an acceptable >> practice for the USA and Canadian markets. >> >> Can anyone comment on this? >> >> Chingling R. Tanco >> Managing Director >> Mida Trade Ventures Intıl Inc,/Mida Food Distributors Inc. >> Manila, Jakarta, Surabaya, Ho Chi Minh City >> >> >> >> From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf >> Of Luiz Henrique >> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:13 AM >> To: seafood@ucdavis.edu >> Subject: RES: green coloration in frozen tilapia >> >> Janani, >> The situation happened with me in two opportunities, also. >> All our fish is produced for instance free from drugs as malachite green (MG) >> and leucomalachite green (LMG) >> The suspicions were deterioration for resistant bacterias to the low >> temperature, presents in the visceras, meantime in my analyzes it was not >> detected an number high of resistant bacterias the low temperature. >> Another suspicion was the high exposition to chlorinated water in the >> chiller. >> The problem can be solved when substituting the chlorine for peracetic >> acid. >> best regards, >> _______________________________________________ >> Luiz Henrique Barrochelo >> Plant Manager - Veterinarian >> Tilápia do Brasil Ind. de Pescados de Aquicultura. >> Tel/Fax: 55 (18) 3694.7200 / 3694.7255 / 3694.7256 >> Cel: 55 (18) 9101.5787 >> e-mail: luizhenrique@tilapiadobrasil.com.br >> <mailto:luizhenrique@tilapiadobrasil.com.br> >> www.tilapiadobrasil.com.br <http://www.tilapiadobrasil.com.br/> >> >> >> >> >> De: Janani Tulasendrapuram [mailto:tkjanani@gmail.com] >> Enviada em: terça-feira, 9 de janeiro de 2007 18:58 >> Para: luizhenrique@tilapiadobrasil.com.br >> Assunto: green coloration in frozen tilapia >> >> Hi, >> >> I was referring to frozen tilapia fillets, and frozen for 4-5 months. If you >> have any knowledge of the green coloration in tilapia, I would appreciate >> your input. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Janani >> > > > --- > The information contained in this communication (including any attachments) is > privileged and confidential, and may be legally exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. It is intended only for the specific purpose of being used by > the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the addressee > indicated in this message (or are responsible for delivery of the message to > such person), you must not disclose, disseminate, distribute, deliver, copy, > circulate, rely on or use any of the information contained in this > transmission. > > We apologize if you have received this communication in error; kindly inform > the sender accordingly. Please also ensure that this original message and any > record of it is permanently deleted from your computer system. We do not give > or endorse any opinions, conclusions and other information in this message > that do not relate to our official business. > >



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