RE: HACCP Question

From: Lupin, Hector (FIIU) (Hector.Lupin@fao.org)
Date: Wed Apr 12 2006 - 10:19:44 PDT

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    Dear Tim,
     
    With acronyms (e.g. GMP and/ or SSOP) the first problem is that they may
    appear in different reference documents (e.g. regulations and guidelines)
    sometimes with slightly or large differences between them. If we want to have
    a sharp definition of each of them, that will be within the context of a
    given regulation or guideline (e.g. the FDA Title 21 Part 123). In addition
    there are other acronyms like GHP (Good Hygiene Practices), GAP (Good
    Aquaculture Practices) and as already mentioned Pre-Requisites (PR) of
    Pre-Requisites Programme (PRP). In Europe you can find also HP (Hygiene
    Plans). However is is necessary to take into account that when we add "plan"
    or "programme" we are talking about a systematic procedure (that could be or
    not in written, but if it is in written better, and some regulations ask
    that). "Plans" and "programmes" are (under HACCP regulations) a sole
    responsibility of the operator. Regulations do not necessarily tell you much
    how to perform them (you know your process better than anybody else).
     
    However, if we have to do a practical classification (from the point of view
    of safety), we could say that the order of hierarchy (starting from the
    lowest) could be the following:
     
    Pre-requisites : Things that physically should be all right from the hygiene
    point of view in your plant, even before the fish enter there (walls, floors,
    windows, filleting tables, water supply, drainage, bathrooms, air curtains,
    hand-washing stations, boot-washing stations, etc.).
     
    Good Manufacturing Practices: Are the standard procedures you are going to
    follow to process your fish. Manufacturing refers to production. However, you
    have to produce in a safe way and as a matter of fact some people mix good
    manufacturing practices (how you are going to fillet your fish) with hygiene
    considerations (e.g. Good Hygiene Practices). However, from the point of view
    of safety the important thing would be to be sure that manufacturing
    practices do not interfere with safety systems or create (or enhance)
    hazards. GMP practices are normally related to time, concentrations,
    temperatures, Aw, pH, weight, yields, traceability (e.g. FIFO), etc.
     
    Good Hygiene Practices: They are general (non-specific) practices aimed to
    achieve a general hygiene state in the plant. They tend to be general advice
    like "personnel shall not move from dirty to clean areas" or "everybody in
    the plant shall wear rubber boots and clean them before to enter the plant"
    or "knives shall be cleaned, disinfected and rinsed after each shift"; "do
    not spit in the floor"; etc.. Good Hygiene Practices could be more or less
    complex depending of the type of product, plant, etc. For instance everybody
    cooking food for a family should follow some Good Hygiene Practices. No
    plans, no records, but in complex plants could be necessary to write them
    down and to tell personnel what do you expect from them.
     
    SSOPs and Hygienic Plans: Good Hygiene Practices are necessary but not enough
    to provide food safety. There are in the plants some recurrent hygiene/
    safety problems that it is better to focus in more detail. For instance water
    and ice safety or pest control. In this case we prefer to have a systematic
    scheme to monitor them and to provide corrective action. There is some
    discussion about this, but is preferable to have a written plan (or
    programme) to monitor and control SSOPs and similar.
     
    How we decide on what should be "promoted" from a generic indication of GHP
    to a SSOP? The first answer (and the practice) is those specified in
    regulations (like the 8 SSOPs included in the FDA Title 21 Part 123). The
    ones included in regulations are those already identified as common problems
    in that sector or type of industry. Different type of food industries could
    require different type of SSOPs. We know in the fish industry that we have
    (or could have) problems with water (or ice) and pests. If we research for
    the most common and recurrent problems, guess who are the first eight that
    will pop up.
     
    But your plant could be different and you may need some additional SSOP from
    those in regulations. To analyse that you have to look into the
    "epidemiology" of your plant. Two of my favourites "non-regulatory" SSOPs
    are: (i) SSOP for indoor facilities repair and (ii) SSOP for plant equipment
    repair and adjustment. They are not mentioned very often, but a common source
    of foreign objects in fish (and food products) came from non food safety
    criteria of people performing repairs and adjustments, both when the plant is
    in operation or even when is idle.
     
    CCP and HACCP Plans: In this case we go into the epidemiology of the product.
    We look into specific hazards (e.g. Salmonella spp) and the control is
    specific on the risk of that hazard. All the previous procedures help to
    reduce risk in general, but focusing on the main relevant (and known) hazards
    of a given product we reduce the specific risk.
     
    As it has been said HACCP Plans per se can not solve the problems left by the
    lack of proper facilities, or absence of SSOPs plan. The highest hierarchy
    (till here) are HACCP plans but each hierarchy is building up on the
    precedent. Each level reduce the risk further.
     
    The important thing is not to become entangled with acronyms, but to look
    first into the regulations you should be in compliance with and then look
    into your plant and see for things your plant or your product may be
    different. Do not wait somebody else find the difference.
     
    Hector M. Lupin
     
     

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Timothy Numilengi [mailto:tnumilengi@fisheries.gov.pg]
            Sent: 12 April 2006 10:11
            To: Remi Michalowski; Lupin, Hector (FIIU)
            Cc: Daniel Brooks; seafood@ucdavis.edu
            Subject: RE: HACCP Question
            
            
            Hi Food safe list,
            The prequisite programs are important especially GMP and SSOP to
    support your HACCP plan and I agree with this comment. However, I'm still
    having difficulty in defferenciating GMP from SSOP. Can anybody explain what
    is GMP and SSOP? Thanks.
             
            Tim.

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu
    [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf Of Remi Michalowski
                    Sent: Wednesday, 12 April 2006 5:50 PM
                    To: Lupin, Hector (FIIU)
                    Cc: Daniel Brooks; seafood@ucdavis.edu
                    Subject: Re: HACCP Question
                    
                    
                    The main issue actually is that everyone presents the HACCP
    as a miracle solution to prevent food safety issues.

                    However, HACCP is nothing without the Pre-Requisites Program
    e.g. GMP, SSOP, Facilities conditions and Workers' Skills and Awareness.

                    If you do not meet the requirements for the PRP, well, no
    need to claim "I am a HACCP company".

                    That is right, you can have all the documentation the
    customers need, you can prepare your audit but, at the end, if you do not
    have your PRP, if you do not have correctly designed, implemented and made
    your HACCP leaving (that is to say verified, validated and reviewed), it is
    so useless... such as getting milk powder in the middle of the desert without
    water.

                    HACCP is a tool, powerful, but if you look at the Codex
    standard : if you cannot monitor the CCP, it is not a CCP... What the hell is
    that???

                    The gap is filed with the ISO 22000 and I really believe that
    this standard is a little revolution for the food businesses and all the
    actors within the food chain.

                    kind regards,

                    Remi Michalowski
                    Indonesia

                    On Apr 11, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Lupin, Hector (FIIU) wrote:

                            
                             
                            Dear all,
                             
                            HACCP has been (and is) the top of an iceberg of a
    way in producing safe foods. HACCP has been defined as a change of paradigm
    in the way to produce safe foods (change of technological paradigm in the
    terms of Thomas Kuhn); and from that point of view we are still in the
    transitory period between the old and the new paradigm; between the "classic"
    food and fish inspection, generic food hygiene and the new paradigm.
                            However, at the same time HACCP is just a risk
    management tool within what is the Risk Management chapter of Risk Analysis.
    Risk Analysis is the real new paradigm (*).
                             
                            In Marguerite Yourcenar's book, Memoirs of Hadrian,
    she wrote that emperor Hadrian's time was a very particular time because the
    old gods were moribund and the new god was still a baby. We could have a
    similar image for HACCP (and Risk Analysis) that are the new "gods" (that in
    some way engulf the "old" ones) but at the same time a large portion of the
    "old" practices remain including regulatory aspects.
                             
                            HACCP in all the regulations is the responsibility of
    the producer and/ or the people responsible of the different stages till the
    food arrive to the consumer. There are some noticeable differences between
    regulations because some include primary producers (e.g. fish boats and
    ponds) and other not; or may not include some of the responsible along the
    food chain (covered by some ad-hoc regulations). But the important thing is
    that regulatory HACCP is the whole responsibility of producer (or according
    to regulations of who owns, handle or process the food at a given time). In
    my opinion a point not well communicated is that the responsibility (and in
    most cases the liability) of the safety of the fish or food, under regulatory
    HACCP, is with that operators (identified in the specific regulations); and
    not any longer with inspection services (or "competent authorities").
                             
                            Of course fish and food inspection services continue
    to have a number of responsibilities and role, among others that of
    monitoring and verify (audit) that HACCP be implemented according with
    regulatory requirements (this obviously depends on the specific HACCP
    regulation). Perhaps here we could repeat that that one of the big problems
    (world over) and that sometimes affect even big companies, is the lack of
    implementation of HACCP Principle No 6; that according to the Codex version
    reads:
                             
                            "Establish procedures for verification to confirm
    that the HACCP system is working effectively"
                             
                            This "verification" is not the same "verification"
    (and audit) of the fish inspection service. The "verification" mentioned in
    Principle 6 is for the operators to do; is internal verification and audit.
    This is the weakest part of HACCP implementation and very often analysing
    food outbreaks it is easy to find out that the problem has born from the lack
    of verification of who should do that. For instance a number of HACCP plans
    rely on the declaration or analysis reports provided by suppliers on the
    absence/ control of some hazards; that is fine as normal procedure, but
    verification should be performed, by who is purchasing, from time to time.
    Not with every batch, but from time to time to see if reality checks with
    documents. Just that. It is not possible or economic to check, for instance
    each ice load for microbiological standards or to see if each bag of chilli
    powder is free from Sudan 1; but if the hazard could be there, we should have
    a plan to verify from time to time that what our supplier is telling us is
    true. A word of caution, not necessarily he/ she wants to cheat us on
    purpose; quite often they have the same problem, they accept certificates
    from their suppliers without to verify them. Papers (or electronic records)
    are one thing reality may be different; papers (or computers) never say NO!!!
    when somebody want to write (record) some non-sense.
                             
                            Food and fish inspection services (or competent
    authorities), or wherever you want to call them, have very little possibility
    to control situations like those described in the previous paragraph. They
    can look (monitor), from time to time, your HACCP plans to see if you have
    proper verification (and internal HACCP audit) schemes; sometimes they could
    have also access to your records and can ask for corrective actions logbook.
    Look at the face of a (experienced) HACCP fish inspector when you tell him/
    her that you do not have any record of corrective actions during the last
    year because there was not need! Certainly you had, and most probably you did
    the right thing at the time; but most probably you did not record it; and the
    main problem is that you acted when the problem was notorious (e.g. because
    of the complaint of a customer) and not because of a systematic and planned
    action from your side. The concept of the systematic and planned verification
    is that you could discover problems before they leave your plant.
                            It is placed there in case something serious could
    escape the CCPs (and eventually the SSOPs).
                             
                            All that are things to do, in the plant, to do
    seriously, with conviction, with the best of our technological knowledge. No
    "certification", "authorization" from fish inspection service, private
    institutions or even ISO, or wherever, could replace that. Some of that
    things could certainly help by providing guidelines or a procedure (or even a
    standard) to do that, but people should do it (and that requirement it is
    already in the HACCP guidelines).
                             
                            Yes, fish is not only fish; but what we call "fish"
    is actually "fish + technology + quality & safety + service"; and the last
    three terms continue to increase.
                             
                            Kind regards.
                             
                            Hector M. Lupin
                             
                            (*) I wrote this paragraph to express that we are
    part of a culture, of a society, of a time in History. Some authors talk of
    post-modern societies as the "Risk Societies" (see for instance Ulrich Beck,
    Risk Society, Towards a New Modernity. London: Sage Publications, 1992
    [originally publ. 1986]. 260 pp.) and most likely developed countries behave
    very much in the way Beck theorises. Without this understanding of the role
    of "risk" in contemporary developed societies it is difficult to understand
    changes like the introduction of HACCP and the development of Risk Analysis.
    They are not here because of some illuminated food (or fish) inspector
    created them, but because society is pressing for schemes like that (to self
    protect themselves) and politicians have very little or not chance to follow.
    Industries that understand that, both in developed and developing countries,
    will have certainly a competitive advantage in the years to come. HACCP
    regulations are not a regulation in the terms of an imposition, and it is
    misleading to see them like that. It is an answer to something that Society
    are asking for. HACCP regulations have been a help to the fish industry all
    around the world.
                             
                             
                             
                             

                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu
    [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Brooks
                                    Sent: 11 April 2006 11:58
                                    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu
                                    Subject: HACCP Question
                                    
                                    
                                    Dear All:
                                    
                                    In most cases, things have improved in the
    correlation between a written HACCP document with the implemented HACCP
    practices. But there is still a way's to go meaning there still can be a big
    discrepancy between the written HACCP document in the importer's office vs.
    what's actually going on in a supplier's plant. And one should be careful
    not to be automatically lulled into a sense of security by the word
    'competent' in the term competent authority - especially in the area of
    HACCP!
                                    
                                    
                                    Thank you.
                                    
                                    Daniel E. Brooks
                                    Managing Director
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