RE: Metal detector

From: Marcelo Hidalgo (marcelhi@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Jun 16 2005 - 13:19:23 PDT

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    He all

    We use metal detection from SAFELINE ltd, Salford
    England, phono 01618488636.

    you can detect particules of diametre 1.8mm, 2.0mm,
    2.2mm, 0.8mm,

    Sin mas

    Marcelo Hidalgo

     --- Marcelo Hidalgo <marcelhi@yahoo.com> escribió:

    > All you´re right, the hand hend? is not valid, I
    > described the tunnel for the detection of metal
    > inclusion.
    >
    > Marcelo
    > --- Jon McGraw <JonMcGraw@seafreeze.com> escribió:
    >
    > > Well put and I totally agree.
    > >
    > > Jon McGraw
    > > Seafreeze
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: GregoryScher@ln.amedd.army.mil
    > > [mailto:GregoryScher@ln.amedd.army.mil]
    > >
    > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:11 PM
    > > To: Pamela Tom
    > > Cc: Marcelo Hidalgo; owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu;
    > > Seafood HACCP Discussion
    > > List
    > > Subject: Re: Metal detector
    > >
    > >
    > > In my humble opinion as an Auditor I would have a
    > > ton of questions about
    > > the validity of that process (hand held). I would
    > > not consider it a valid
    > > method to ensure metal above specified limits
    > (FDA,
    > > Spec, ect) is kept out
    > > of product.
    > >
    > > Conventional methods pass the product through a
    > > calibrated, verified
    > > channel that has been set to a products specific
    > > density, temperature, and
    > > other characteristics. It is verified and human
    > > error for the most part is
    > > removed. With hand held it has no validity. If
    > > hand held metal detector
    > > was a plants control under HACCP for metal
    > inclusion
    > > I would say that it
    > > will not ensure that metal does not get through.
    > > There are many ways to
    > > address metal inclusion without using metal
    > > detection at all e.g.
    > > inspecting blades at specified intervals. Bottom
    > > line is that hand helds
    > > will only give a false sense that a hazard is
    > being
    > > addressed.
    > >
    > > Greg Scher, CQA
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    > >
    > > Pamela Tom
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    > >
    > > <pdtom@ucdavis.ed
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    > > u>
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    > > To
    > > Sent by: Marcelo
    > > Hidalgo
    > > owner-seafood@ucd
    > > <marcelhi@yahoo.com>
    > > avis.edu
    >
    > > cc
    > > Seafood
    > HACCP
    > > Discussion List
    > >
    > > <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    > > 06/16/2005 09:58
    >
    > > Subject
    > > AM Re: Metal
    > > detector
    > >
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    > > Hi Marcelo,
    > >
    > > Thank you for mentioning the U.S. Food and Drug
    > > Administration's
    > > "Fish and Fisheries Products Hazards & Controls
    > > Guidance." The third
    > > edition (June 2001) of the Hazards Guide states
    > the
    > > following about metal
    > > fragment sizes:
    > >
    > > "FDA's Health Hazard Evaluation Board has
    > supported
    > > regulatory action
    > > against product with metal fragments of 0.3" (7
    > mm)
    > > to 1.0" (25mm) in
    > > length. See FDA Compliance Policy Guide #555.425."
    > >
    > > Source: Chapter 20: Metal Inclusion (A Physical
    > > Hazard)
    > > http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~comm/haccp4t.html
    > >
    > > The table of contents for the Hazards Guide is at:
    > > http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~comm/haccp4.html
    > >
    > > Some companies may have operating limits that are
    > > more stringent than the
    > > regulatory action level or critical limits in
    > their
    > > HACCP plan.
    > >
    > > My original question focuses on comments regarding
    > > the use of hand-held
    > > metal detectors. One person wrote to me and
    > > mentioned that you need to
    > > verify that they will work and that a lot of human
    > > error is involved. Are
    > > there any other thoughts on hand-helds?
    > >
    > > Pamela Tom
    > > University of California
    > > Sea Grant Extension Program
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Marcelo Hidalgo wrote:
    > >
    > > > He all
    > > >
    > > > About your question, the metal detector is used
    > in
    > > all
    > > > factory in Ecuador, Colombia y Peru in precooked
    > > Tuna
    > > > loims, it is very important to assure that your
    > > > product is free of metal littlepieces ( 0.001mm)
    > > >
    > > > Is a requiare of FDA, in if you want to export
    > for
    > > > there (USA), you need it. In other hand, with
    > this
    > > you
    > > > save a lot claims for metal pieces.
    > > >
    > > > Could you review the Seafood and Fisheries Guide
    > > in
    > > > the metal detector part.
    > > >
    > > > Marcelo Hidalgo
    > > > Quality Assurance Inspector
    > > > TRIMARINE-SOUTH AMERICA
    > >
    > >
    >
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