Re: Is "Escolar" poisonous?

From: Mark Neely (surefish@az.com)
Date: Tue Apr 05 2005 - 13:17:53 PDT

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    Funny how all this talk about Escolar really gets everybody "going"!

    Someone once told me that he had heard of doctors in Florida prescribing
    small amounts of this fish for old folks who were constipated.

    Mark Neely
    Surefish

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ronnie Wrenn" <ronnie@starboard-inc.com>
    To: "P Howgate" <phowgate@clara.co.uk>; "Kevin JK Choi"
    <jaekookchoi@hotmail.com>; "Seafood research and extension information
    exchange" <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
    Subject: RE: Is "Escolar" poisonous?

    > To All reading this article I found that Escolar flesh contains
    > indigestible wax ester oil, if eaten in large quantities has been know
    > to cause the symptoms my mentioned... poisonous my be a little strong
    > ....I certainly have no desire to eat any..RHW
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&lis
    > t_uids=12416710&dopt=Abstract
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: P Howgate [mailto:phowgate@clara.co.uk]
    > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:54 PM
    > To: Kevin JK Choi; Seafood research and extension information exchange
    > Subject: Re: Is "Escolar" poisonous?
    >
    > Dear all,
    >
    > I am aware of several reports in the scientific literature on the
    > purgative
    > effects of the oil in 'escolar'. I believe some countries already ban
    > importation or sale of this and associated species. The situation has
    > been
    > considered in the EU and a summary of the hazard is given in 'Opinion of
    > the
    > Scientific Panel on Contaminants in the Food Chain on a request from the
    >
    > Commission related to the toxicity of fishery products belonging to the
    > family of Gempylidae. Adopted on 30 August 2004' published in the EFSA
    > Journal, 2004, 92, 1-5. A copy is available on the EFSA Internet site at
    >
    > http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/contam/contam_opinions/609/opinion_contam
    > 07_ej92_gempylidae_en1.pdf .
    >
    > Following is a text of the summary in the report.
    >
    > I thinkthere might be mislabelling of 'escolar' both ways. That is true
    > escolar might be labelled as bass or such and a warning about this was
    > issued by the UK FSA a year or so ago, and other species might be sold
    > as
    > 'escolar'. A couple of years ago I was in arestaurant that offered
    > escolar
    > on the menu. I was surprised at this because I was not aware it was
    > imported
    > into Britain. I had it anyway without ill effect. It did not taste oily
    > and
    > I have reservations that I was in fact served with a Gempylid species.
    >
    > Peter Howgate
    > -----------------------------------
    >
    > "Oilfish (Ruvettus pretiosus) and Escolar (Lepidocybium flavobrunneum)
    > belonging to the family of Gempylidae are consumed in several European
    > counties. These two species do not metabolise wax esters that occur
    > naturally in their diet and, as a consequence, these wax esters are
    > stored
    > in the body of these fish. The oil content of the muscle meat of Oilfish
    > and
    > Escolar amounts to 18 - 21 % and the oil contains > 90 % wax esters. The
    > wax
    > esters may cause diarrhoea and other acute gastro-intestinal symptoms in
    >
    > humans following the consumption of meat from these fish species. The
    > symptoms develop rapidly and may be pronounced but usually are not long
    > lasting. From the case reports available, it is not possible to
    > establish an
    > intake level of such fish which will not lead to these adverse effects
    > but
    > proper preparation practices may prevent such incidences."
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Kevin JK Choi
    > To: Seafood research and extension information exchange
    > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:11 PM
    > Subject: Is "Escolar" poisonous?
    >
    >
    > Greetings Seafood List Serve,
    >
    > Does anyone have any information about fish "Escolar" that they can send
    > to
    > me?
    > I currently have a big argument with one salesman.
    >
    > He said that Escolar is poisonous without question and not allowed to
    > cook
    > for a human being. He thinks that Escolar is resulting in the violent
    > diarrhea every time whenever people have. He also thinks that Escolar
    > is
    > resulting in the violent diarrhea every time whenever people have.
    >
    > But, I do not think so. I have tried to have this Escolar many times
    > before, but I was fine everytime. I like this fish, very pleasing
    > texture.
    >
    > I know that FDA allowed to sell this fish fillets on 1994 and many
    > Restaurants in United States are currently selling it as the best dish a
    > la
    > carte.
    >
    > Nevertheless, Is "Escolar" poisonous without question and not allowed to
    >
    > cook for a human being? I believe that it will be fine, if we have just
    >
    > little "Escolar" at once.
    > Please let me know if anyone has any opinion.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Kevin J.K. Choi
    >
    > HANAMI FOODS CORP
    >
    > Phone : 201-857-2175
    > 201-657-3386
    > Fax : 201-581-0238
    > email : mail@hanamifood.com
    >
    >
    >



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