RE: Bacillus cereus in pasteurized crab

From: Ted Brillantes (tedb@jmbinter.com)
Date: Thu Jun 24 2004 - 00:42:19 PDT

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    Hi Richard,

     

    Thank you for your reply. Yes, I did see this site but the D values are
    too wide, for example 21-137 minutes at 90 C.

     

    I also found the attached reference, but it also shows a very wide range
    -- D85 at 33.8 - 106 min.

    By the way, the attached also shows that it can grow at anaerobic
    conditions.

     

    Any info on z value?

     

    Best regards,

     

     

    Ted

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Richard Chivers [mailto:richardchivers@btconnect.com]
    Sent: 24 June, 2004 2:09 PM
    To: Ted Brillantes; HACCP mailing list (HACCP mailing list)
    Subject: RE: Bacillus cereus in pasteurized crab

     

    Hi Ted

     

    Have you tried this for D values:

     

    http://seafood.ucdavis.edu/haccp/compendium/Chapt10.htm#Growth

     

    Perhaps USFDA chose C. bot as it is more common in a marine context than
    B. cereus. Also of course it is aerobic which will have a bearing on
    its development in can.

     

    Richard Chivers

    Seafood Audit International

     

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu]On
    Behalf Of Ted Brillantes
    Sent: 24 June 2004 06:36
    To: HACCP mailing list (HACCP mailing list)
    Subject: Bacillus cereus in pasteurized crab

     

    Dear List,

     

    I am reviewing HACCP for pasteurized canned crab.

     

    Could somebody tell me why USFDA picked up C. botulinum tye E and
    nonprot. B and F as the target microorganism for pasteurization instead
    of Bacillus cereus which seems to be more heat resistant ? (FDA Hazards
    and Control Guidance, Chap. 17: Pathogen Survival Through
    Pasteurization).

     

    Does anybody have information on B. cereus : D value, z value, etc?

     

    Thank you very much.

     

    Best regards,

     

    Ted Brillantes

    Quality Assurance Manager

    JMB International Ltd

    69 Soi Prasartsook, Yenarkard Rd

    Chongnonsee, Yannawa, Bangkok 10120

    Tel. (02) 249-1909, 249-1951, 249-1955, 671-0157 to 8

    Fax (02) 711-9341

     

     

     





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