Re: Cooked Crab HACCP

From: Liz Brown (bfeab@uaf.edu)
Date: Thu Jun 10 2004 - 11:44:34 PDT

  • Next message: Frazier, Joseph: "RE: Cooked Crab HACCP"

    Perhaps the FDA could respond to this.

    A crab processor's HACCP plan was deemed inadequate because the critical
    limit in their Listeria control CCP was an internal temperature of 195°F
    which they ascertain by inserting calibrated thermometers in the
    shoulders at two places in the cook basket at the end of each batch.

    The inspector claimed that (1) the variability of temperatures in
    different parts of the cooker made it essential to have both time and
    water temperature included in the CCP for control of Listeria and that
    (2) records could be too easily falsified.

    My understanding is that the requirement for control of Listeria
    monocytogenes is simply reaching an internal temperature of 185° for
    0.02 minutes (that's from the Hazards Guide but other process experts
    have listed 165° for a minimum internal temperature) so it seems that
    any processor who reaches 195° is far exceeding safe levels. It is clear
    that bluing would occur in any crab that has not been cooked well past
    the listeria control point so there is a built in control mechanism as
    customers will not buy blued crab.

    This might be a case of the Hazards Guide being used as a regulation
    rather than a guide. Just because Chapter 16 (Pathogen Survival Through
    Cooking) gives an example of the water and temperature being used
    doesn't mean that is the only way to achieve the critical limit
    monitoring. I think there might be a very real danger inflicted if the
    Alaska processing fleet is required to do a visual inspection of cookers
    to see if the temperature is back up to boiling - the Bering Sea in
    January is no place to be lifiting the lid of thousands of gallons of
    210° water.

    In the "Common Mistakes in HACCP - Cooked Crab" flyer I wrote: "#4 Not
    calibrating equipment -You may choose one critical limit of an internal
    temperature or two critical limits of cooking water temperature and time
    cooked. Either way you must make sure you have achieved your cook
    requirements." (http://www.uaf.edu/seagrant/Pubs_Videos/pubs/ASG-40.pdf)
    and if I need to change the document to reflect current FDA practices I
    will certainly do so.

    Mostly I think the industry needs to know that all the inspectors are on
    the same page on this or any other issue, especially issues that will
    require either dangerous or expensive fixes.

    Thanks in advance for responses.

    -- 
    Liz Brown
    Marine Advisory Program
    University of Alaska Fairbanks
    PO Box 1549
    Dillingham, AK 99576
    907-842-1265
    Fax 907-842-3202
    



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Thu Jun 10 2004 - 11:51:15 PDT