Re: twice-frozen salmon

From: Paul G. Taylor (pault@everfoodingr.com)
Date: Thu Mar 11 2004 - 09:09:32 PST

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    Steve:
    My unofficial, unscientific observations about this result from about 22
    years of selling specialty phosphates, so I offer the following:

    We all know that freezing disrupts the cellular structure and increases drip
    loss. I have more than once been asked by a customer if they should treat
    seafood with phosphate if it has previously been frozen and thawed. I
    usually answer that it might do a very slight bit of good, but nothing like
    it would have if treated before freezing.

    However, I think there may be some additional advantage if the
    previously-frozen and then thawed seafood is treated again, but only after
    butchering, filleting, or otherwise producing freshly-cut surfaces that are
    then exposed to the phosphate solution. We do know from previous studies
    done by John Wekell (NOAA) in treating chunks of previously-frozen salmon
    prior to canning, that the surface treatment of the chunks BEFORE filling
    into the can seems to "seal" the cut surfaces thus preventing the exudation
    of protein which results in curd formation. I have seen the same phenomena
    on fillets cut from previously-frozen fish that are treated after filleting
    and before re-freezing, resulting in significantly less drip loss.

    Of course, the proper phosphate needs to be used for this treatment, not
    just any old cheap "phos" that comes in a bag!

    (This might make a good project for some of the research folks.)

    Steve, I hope that this is the info that you need.

    Best regards,

    Paul

    Paul G. Taylor
    Evergreen Food Ingredients
    2210 Black Lake Blvd. S.W.
    Olympia, WA 98512-5604 U.S.A.
    Phone: (360)754-1718; Fax: (360)705-1359
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    E-mail: pault@everfoodingr.com
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Steve Grabacki" <graystar@alaska.net>
    To: "Seafood Internet" <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:03 PM
    Subject: twice-frozen salmon

    > Greetings -- How does twice-frozen salmon differ from once-frozen
    product?
    > Example -- Salmon #1 is filleted, and the fillets are frozen. Salmon #2
    is
    > headed-and-gutted, then frozen, later thawed, then filleted, then the
    > fillets are frozen. How apparent is the difference between the fillets of
    > fish #1 vs. fish #2? What are the specific differences (texture, etc.)?
    > Are there any papers or reports of studies on this topic? Thanks &
    Cheers,
    > -- Steve
    >
    > Stephen T. (Steve) Grabacki, FP-C
    > President
    > GRAYSTAR Pacific Seafood, Ltd.
    > P.O.Box 100506
    > Anchorage, Alaska
    > 99510-0506 USA
    > ph: +907-272-5600
    > fx: +907-272-5603
    > graystar@alaska.net
    >



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