RE: HACCP Confusion

From: Bob Price (rjprice@ucdavis.edu)
Date: Wed Jan 21 2004 - 00:55:50 PST

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    On October 10, 2003, U.S. FDA issued two regulations: 1) an interim
    final rule requiring that domestic and foreign facilities that
    manufacture, process, pack, or hold food for human or animal consumption
    in the United States must register with FDA by December 12, 2003, and 2)
    an interim final rule requiring submission to FDA of prior notice of
    food, including food for animals, that is imported or offered for import
    into the United States after December 12, 2003.

     

    Information on the new U.S. FDA requirements for food exporters to the
    U.S. can be found at:

     

    http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~furls/helpf.html

     

    This includes information on:

     

    1. Required food facility registration,
    2. Required prior notice before shipping food to the U.S., and
    3. A requirement that exporters have a U.S. agent.

     

     

    Bob

     

    Robert J. Price, Ph.D.

    Emeritus Extension Specialist

    University of California, Davis

    616 Buchanan Street

    Davis, CA 95616

    Phone: 530-753-4762

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu] On
    Behalf Of Hamad Al-Kulaib
    Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:17 PM
    To: Oscar do Porto; seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: RE: HACCP Confusion

     

    Dear Mr Porto and respected list members,

     

                The plant I am Speaking of in Hodeidah, Yemen. We have
    recently purchased it ( may 2003 ), I am not quite sure where the
    Committee Came from but what I am Sure of is that it came by influence
    of the government in 1997 as the E.U approved Yemen for export to
    Europe, all the information I have is from our quality manager who was
    there when they approved the plant.

         Please correct me if I am wrong, But from all your valuable input
    my deduction about HACCP and export to the USA is this: All that is
    required on my part is to actually implement HACCP, It is the importers
    responsibility to "make sure" that we are implementing it in front of
    the USA authorities if requested. As for shipping documents, Each
    shipment is sampled and tested ( Microbology, not sure if it's the
    correct word ) before being granted the health certificate by the
    Ministry of fisheries. That includes every shipment and not random
    shipments, new rules as of July 2003.

    If I am missing something please advise,

     

    Regards,

     

     

    Hamad Al-Kulaib

    VP Marketing

    Al-Kulaib Fisheries Co.

    Email:- <mailto:Kuwait@alkulaibfisheries.com>
    Kuwait@alkulaibfisheries.com

    http://www.alkulaibfisheries.com/

    Tel: 965 2405551/2

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu]On
    Behalf Of Oscar do Porto
    Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 2:10 AM
    To: Brendan McHugh (CBL); 'Hamad Al-Kulaib'; seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: Re: HACCP Confusion

     

    Hello all

    On my view, Brendan and Hamad are adding more confussion to the matter.

     

    In connection with Brendan commentary: In fact, formaly the US FDA and
    the law are not recognising any valid third party intervention or
    certification. The matter of making a bussiness related to certification
    promote many confussions. The one responsible for the application of
    HACCP at the level of production any where is the broker / importer in
    USA. If the Importer use the service of a third party to verify the
    situation it's under his responsibility.

     

    Hamad :

    a) You are not metionning who represented the "committee approving your
    factory and giving you a EU code. That supose to be done by a National
    Competent Authority, previously agreed by the FVO from Brussels and not
    anybody else...

    What's next? If you follow your plan and pass the audits regularly done
    by your National C.A. you will mantain your name in the list of approved
    establishments and yours products will benefit of national health
    certification saying that the product was obtained under the conditions
    of the regulation and will be accepted to enter the EU border. Then Next
    is doing all the time what you declared and keeping records to prove it.

    b) You are not metionning in which country are you or the plant to refer
    to, to provide us some framework.

     

    Regards,

    Oscar do Porto

     

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Brendan <mailto:Brendan.McHugh@connors.ca> McHugh (CBL)

     

    To: 'Hamad <mailto:Hamad@alkulaibfisheries.com> Al-Kulaib' ;
    seafood@ucdavis.edu

    Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:29 PM

    Subject: RE: HACCP Confusion

     

    Apart from all the registration, specifications etc. documents, the
    HACCP requirement is for the US based broker or customer to have one of
    the importer's affirmative steps one of which is having a copy of a
    document from a third party saying that your HACCP plan has been
    inspected and meets the requirements of the US regulations.

    (21 CFR 123.12 (ii) B or F )

    It would be an interesting exercise to determine if any certification
    that you get from the EU inspection could be used to satisfy the US FDA.

     Can anyone advise?

     

     

     

    Brendan McHugh

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Hamad Al-Kulaib [mailto:Hamad@alkulaibfisheries.com]
    Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:58 AM
    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: HACCP Confusion

    Dear List,

               I am starting to get very confused on the requirements of
    exporting Seafood to the USA. In order to export to the E.U, a committee
    came to our factory, inspected and approved giving us an E.E.C code.
    Simple enough, I know the steps of HACCP and that a person has to be
    HACCP trained on site, HACCP team, Critical point analysis, Product flow
    diagrams but what I want to know is after all this has been implemented
    what next? Who is the authority figure that is connected to the fda that
    grants exports from a specific factory outside the USA? Please someone
    explain to me the method of exporting to USA in lamens terms. Any light
    on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best regards,

     

    Hamad Al-Kulaib

    VP Marketing

    Al-Kulaib Fisheries Co.

    Email:- <mailto:Kuwait@alkulaibfisheries.com>
    Kuwait@alkulaibfisheries.com

    http://www.alkulaibfisheries.com/

    Tel: 965 2405551/2

     

     



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