RE: drying hands and use of alcohol

From: Lupin, Hector (FIIU) (Hector.Lupin@fao.org)
Date: Mon Oct 13 2003 - 00:57:24 PDT

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    Dear colleagues,
     
    Just a comment. I had the possibility to observe the use of alcohol spray in
    the fishery industry in a number of tropical countries. It was used normally
    in ready-to-eat lines to keep bacteria control (in addition to low
    temperatures and freezing).
     
    However, in some cases I have observed problems with that usage too. As
    happens in other areas where alcohol has been used just to prevent, this
    results in practice a selection of microbial flora. In particular the
    combination of alcohol and humidity gives the possibility of mould growing
    (moulds can grow till - 18 degree centigrade). As there are mould species
    that produce alcohol; some moulds are resistant to alcohol.
     
    Whereas moulds may not be in themselves a hazard they tend to form biofilms,
    that in practice protect bacteria, which in turn may include pathogenic
    bacteria. Mould colonies could be seen as black stripes in crevices (e.g. in
    belt transport elements, packing tools - in the places where alcohol is
    applied -) and are very difficult to eradicate.
     
    In at least two occasions of which I had the possibility to observe, this
    was coupled with detection by the importer of S. aureus toxin, that was one
    of the things alcohol was intended to prevent. Whereas improper cleaning
    plans, and other factors may have contributed to that situation it was true
    that the use of alcohol has relaxed the hygiene mentality of operators and
    management.
     
    Growing of mould colonies in tropical fish processing plants it is not a new
    problem, however, use of alcohol introduces definitely a new dimension (I
    took that into account in my observations, if mould colonies were already in
    the wall, equipment, etc., this was a more generalized problem).
     
    The approval of a substance for a given use (e.g. for use by surgeons) does
    not means that it is immediately approved or recommended for other uses or
    in other contexts. The "off label" (or "cascade") use of medicine drugs is
    something that should be done at least only under a proper and independent
    risk assessment. If the problems of indiscriminate use of antibiotics has to
    teach us something, that is what it should teach.
     
    Soap, a good procedure and dry hands is what practice and research have
    found most effective.
     
    Hector M. Lupin

    Senior Fishery Industry Officer

    (Quality Assurance)

    Fish Utilization and Marketing Service

    Fishery Industry Division - FAO

    hector.lupin@fao.org

    Tel.: (39) 06 570 56459

    Fax: (39) 06 570 55188

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Shahul Hameed [mailto:peershahul@hotmail.com]
    Sent: 11 October 2003 08:08
    To: Francisco Camino; seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: Re: drying hands


    Dear Francisco,
    Hand drying should not be encouraged due to the warm air it generates and
    subsequent air current created in that area. The best option is disposable
    hand towels. You can also use alcohol gel, but make sure there is no flavour
    in that which may affect your product flavour.
     
    Some gel available in the market has a lemon flavour. Beware.
     
    Best regards,
     
    Shahul Hameed,
    Nile Perch Fisheries Ltd,
    P.O.Box: 1753,
    Mwanza, Tanzania.
    Tel: +255 28 2570431
    Fax: +255 28 2570430
    Mob: +255 744 520899

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Francisco <mailto:frankcamino@yahoo.com> Camino
    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu <mailto:seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:02 PM
    Subject: drying hands

    Dear List:

    Somebody can tell me which better afte~r handwashing,
    drying hands with towel paper, or use alcohol gel for
    helping to reduce microorganisms or use electrical
    dryer hands(by hot air).

    Please send your recommendations.

    Best regards,
    Francisco Camino
    Expack Seafood, Inc.
    Brazil

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