Re: Shrimp and tuna

From: Daniel Nunez (daniel@sudamar.com)
Date: Fri Aug 22 2003 - 14:33:19 PDT

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    Dear all:

    Please check the legal uses of sulfites in the US

    http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=58828227566+7+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

    21 CFR Sec. 182.3766 Sodium metabisulfite.

        (a) Product. Sodium metabisulfite.
        (b) [Reserved]
        (c) Limitations, restrictions, or explanation. This substance is
    generally recognized as safe when used in accordance with good
    manufacturing practice, except that it is not used in meats; in food
    recognized as a source of vitamin B<INF>1</INF>; on fruits or vegetables
    intended to be served raw to consumers or sold raw to consumers, or to
    be presented to consumers as fresh.

    [42 FR 14640, Mar. 15, 1977, as amended at 51 FR 25025, July 9, 1986; 55 FR 9833, Mar. 15, 1990; 59 FR 65939, Dec. 22, 1994]

    Regards,

    Daniel NT
    Sudamar
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: E. Jerry Oliveras, Laboratory Director & President
      To: 'Hamad AL-Mishari'
      Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu
      Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:13 PM
      Subject: RE: Shrimp and tuna

      I think you misunderstood me
      pyrosulfite and metabisulfite are just different names for the exact same
      chemical compound - Na2S2O5
      it is like table salt = sodium chloride or rust = iron oxide or water =
      dihydrogen oxide

      I agree about the sulfiting agents use being very wide spread - my
      observations are the same
      Yet it is still something not allowed in the US - seemingly even if so
      labeled on raw shrimp

      Jerry

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Hamad AL-Mishari [mailto:Hamad@alkulaibfisheries.com]
      Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM
      To: jerry@anresco.com
      Subject: RE: Shrimp and tuna

      Dear Mr Oliveras
      We do not export to the US, Our market is mainly europe where sulphiting is
      legel. I have a comment though, I have yet to see one shrimp processor who
      does not use sulphites. whether here in yemen or india or pakistan or iran
      or kuwait. Are you sure sulphiting is illegal in the usa? I know both
      compounds are sulphites but pyro comes in more concentrated form. It is my
      understanding that the pecent dilution is 0.02% ie 20g per 100 liters. and
      metabi we use 200g per 100 liters

      -----Original Message-----
      From: E. Jerry Oliveras, Laboratory Director & President
      [mailto:jerry@anresco.com]
      Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:48 PM
      To: 'Hamad AL-Mishari'
      Cc: seafood@ucdavis.edu
      Subject: RE: Shrimp and tuna

      assumption is you are NOT using sulfiting agents on shrimp exported to the
      US as this would be ILLEGAL.
      metabisulfite and pyrosulfite are synonyms of the same exact chemical -
      Na2S2O5
      someone is trying to pull a fast one on you
      Regards
      E. Jerry Oliveras, Jr.
      Laboratory Director & President
      ANRESCO, Inc.
      1370 Van Dyke Avenue
      San Francisco, CA 94124
      www.anresco.com
      800-359-0920 x18
      FAX: 415-822-6615
      cell: 415-378-1600
      alternate email: anresco@pacbell.net

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Hamad AL-Mishari [mailto:Hamad@alkulaibfisheries.com]
      Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:21 PM
      To: seafood@ucdavis.edu
      Subject: Shrimp and tuna

      Dear List member
          From the trade, i know not to process net caught tuna as the histamine
      levels in it are high. I know that if i process it into loins it would be
      rejected so I always use hook caught tuna. I kniw this but have yet to know
      the logic behind. . I also have a question regarding accepted sulphite
      levels in shrimps. We usaully use sodium metabisulphite, this year we have
      another compound which as i understand is more concentrated . its sodium
      pyrosulphite. if anyone would confirm the percentage of dilution and use. If
      anyone would shed some light on the subjects I would be truly thankful

      Best wishes and Regards

      Hamad Al-Kulaib
      VP Marketing
      Qataria Fish & Shrimp Processing Co
      Tel: 967 3 268421/2
      Fax: 967 3 268423
      Hodeidah, Yemen



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