RE: Seafood Returns

From: Winkel, Clare (Clare.Winkel@dpi.qld.gov.au)
Date: Tue Feb 04 2003 - 21:01:24 PST

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    I have To strongly agree with Mark from Surefish and Noel from NZ.

    Customer complaint are a sign that all is not well in some aspect of
    your business and you would be very very foolhardy to ignore the
    customer. There are many tricks you can use to double check that the
    customer is telling the truth and these are all part of managing the
    continual improvement in your business.

    I used to be a QA Manager for a processing arm of Australia's largest
    supermarket chain, and they taught me that the customer is always right
    even when they are wrong. Without the customer complaints and returned
    products I would never had got any improvements happening anywhere
    (processing, raw materials purchase, storage, distribution, marketing,
    retail sector, staff training, individual supermarket buying practices
    were all improved because of complaints and returned product).

    I actually always requested the product be returned so that I could
    examine the product myself for the real cause of the problem not the
    perceived problem ie not "product went off" but "product grew micro's
    caused by a drop in pH because product processed with incorrect
    ingredients" or " product had the wrong colour because the product was
    processed incorrectly because staff couldn't read labels". You can also
    id foreign objects as not coming from your site but the householders or
    retail outlet ie bits of Tupperware plastic, parts of metal scourers
    ect....

    If you don't get the product back you will never know the real cause of
    the problem and therefore never be able to improve your business, it has
    nothing to do with business protocol.

    Clare Winkel
    Food Consultant
    Centre for Food Technology
    The Agency for Food and Fibre Sciences
    19 Hercules St
    Hamilton Qld 4007
    Australia
    ph Aust/ 7/ 3406 8691
    fax Aust/ 7/ 3406 8662
    email clare.winkel@dpi.qld.gov.au

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jose P. Peralta [mailto:jperalta@gaechuk.gsnu.ac.kr]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 11:17
    To: seafood@ucdavis.edu
    Subject: Re: Seafood Returns

    Dear Phil and list,
    I work in QC before and somehow I learned certain business protocols.

    I agree with Althaf, that once the product has been accepted, it should
    not be
    returned. As a matter of protocol, that is the way it should be done.
    The
    products have already been accepted.

    But then again, relationship between suppliers and customers develop,
    and this
    protocol is somewhat bent to lean in favor of the customer. Returns are
    sometimes tolerated.

    Phil, you are not hard on your customer. You are simply applying good
    business
    protocol.

    Br,

    Jose

    Althaf Khan wrote:

    > Dear Phil,
    > Very interesting comment you made on "Seafood Returns". Why stop at
    retail
    > level? How about wholesale customers and distributors? I think once
    the
    > product has been accepted by any customer (Customer namely: retailer,
    > wholesaler, distributor, etc) should not be returned, simply due to
    the fact
    > that the supplier(producer, distributor, wholesaler, etc) have no
    control
    > over the product.
    > Thank you,
    > Althaf Khan
    > Plant Manager
    > River Seafoods, Inc.
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Phil Houle" <philhoule@bozzutos.com>
    > To: <seafood@ucdavis.edu>
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:23 PM
    > Subject: Seafood Returns
    >
    > > Since joining the seafood group I have found the responses to
    questions by
    > > members of the group to be very helpful and informative. I'm looking
    for
    > > some guidance in whether to accept or reject seafood items as a
    returned
    > > item from a retail customer.
    > >
    > > Recently I have had a few meetings with our company's seafood buyers
    and
    > > customer service departments to affirm my position that no seafood
    item,
    > > fresh or frozen, is to be returned from any of our retail customers
    once
    > the
    > > shipment has been accepted by the retailer and our truck driver has
    left
    > > their property. This has caused a few angry customers. Sometimes the
    > reason
    > > for the requested return of product is due to the wrong item
    delivered.
    > > Other times it was the retailer that ordered the wrong item or order
    too
    > > much. The reasons are many but my stance has been that once the
    retail
    > > customer accepts the shipment and our driver has left their property
    to
    > > return to our warehouse we cannot accept any seafood product to be
    > returned.
    > > I view the retailer as a supplier to us once custody of product
    control
    > has
    > > taken place and therefore would require them to have a Seafood HACCP
    > > Program.
    > >
    > > Am I too hard nosed with this issue? You response would be very much
    > > appreciated.
    > >
    > > Thank you,
    > >
    > >
    > > Phil Houle
    > > HACCP Manager
    > >

    --
    

    Jose P. Peralta. Ph. D. Visiting Professor in Food Science Major Div. of Marine Bioscience, College of Marine Science Gyeongsang National University 445, Inpyeong-dong, Tongyeong 650-160, KOREA Tel (82 55) 640 3004

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