RE: Microbiological Criteria for fresh/previously frozen finfish and shrimp

From: Douglas L. Marshall (microman@ra.msstate.edu)
Date: Tue Sep 05 2000 - 16:33:05 PDT

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    Hi Linda,

    Could you clarify whether you are referring to raw fish and shrimp or cooked
    ready-to-eat products? Obviously the later category would merit stricter
    standards. Also note that scientifically there is no correct minima or
    maxima for any microorganism in foods. Each regulatory body and buyer can
    have their own criteria (with or without scientific merit).
    To give you an extreme example of where criteria could be misleading is
    illustrated by work in my lab where we added substantial numbers of "good"
    microorganisms to antagonize "bad" microorganisms. In this case the
    artificial criteria would be exceeded even though the product is better.
    See the following as an example.

    Kim, C.R., J.O. Hearnsberger, A.P. Vickery, C.H. White, and D.L. Marshall.
    1995. Sodium acetate and bifidobacteria increase shelf-life of refrigerated
    catfish fillets. Journal of Food Science 60:25-27.

    Therefore, I would urge caution, particularly for a consumer-based magazine,
    that you completely discuss the pros and cons of microbiological criteria
    before unnecessarily causing harm to an industry and fear among unknowing
    consumers.

    You may be able to find the following reference, which has some old
    recommendations. There might be a newer 1986 update of the book.

    ICMSF. 1974. Sampling plans for fish and fishery products, pp. 92-104. In:
    Microorganisms in Foods, Vol. 2. Sampling for Microbiological Analysis.
    Principles and Applications. The International Commission on
    Microbiological Specifications for Foods. University of Toronto Press.

    Should you wish to discuss this matter privately please advise.

    Doug (a long-term subscriber)
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    Professor & Food Scientist
    Department of Food Science & Technology
    Mississippi State University
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    Mississippi State, MS 39762-9805 USA
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-seafood@ucdavis.edu]On
    Behalf Of Greene, Linda
    Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:00 PM
    To: 'seafood@ucdavis.edu'
    Subject: Microbiological Criteria for fresh/previously frozen finfish
    and shrimp

    I'm looking for microbiological limits for total plate count, fecal coliform
    and E. coli for fresh/frozen finfish and shrimp.

    I've found some criteria in the Compendium for Fishery and Fishery Products,
    though there are no guidelines for fecal coliform/E. coli which apply to
    finfish and shrimp.

    Does anyone have suggestions as where to look?

    Linda Greene
    Consumers Union
    greeli@consumer.org



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