Hi Paul,
Following is the original message/request that started the thread. I do not
think that our intention was a full blown review of the subject by any means
although we may have deviated here and there from the main course. Our
dissent if there was truly any has centered around the praticality of some
thermodynamic calculations in those situations of uncontrollable or
difficult to determine heat leaks into the system and other variables.
Certainly, we can expand the subject but what is specifically of your
interest than?
Best regards,
Andrew Strak
From: André & Joline Belliveau (bellcom@klis.com)
Date: Thu Jul 13 2000 - 21:50:24 PDT
There must be an easy was to determine how much ice should be added to a
known quantity fish to chill it to a determined temperature knowing how much
fish one has and what the temperature is before adding ice. Anybody out
there know what it is and is willing to share it?
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Subject: Re: Amount of Ice to Chill Fish
> To all who are interested in the benefits of good icing procedures,
>
> We all know that the post harvest handling of fish is greatly influenced
by
> basic icing procedures and techniques. The post mortem changes that occur
> shortly after death are greatly influenced by temperature. How quickly are
> the fish iced after landing and how quickly they are reduced to 0C to -1C.
In
> some species, especially the hakes of the world are, rapid chilling rates
> have direct influence on the quality (and value) of the raw material
landed
> at dockside. For all those who are into salmon, rapid chilling at
slaughter
> also has a great influence on the quality of the fresh fillet.
>
> I am surprised that the discussion of the forms of the icing medium has
not
> come up in the recent discussion such as, crystal ice, flake ice, slush
ice,
> ice made with sea water (I was told once that there was no such thing as
> saltwater ice), ice mixed with seawater, salt mixed with ice, flow ice
> (binary ice) and RSW. Even though 0C is 0C, ice is not necessarily ice.
>
> We haven't even started to touch on boxes, bins, tubs and containers yet.
>
> Paul Dion
> Paul Dion Associates, Inc.
> Plymouth, MA
> USA
>
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