RE: Ammonia in fish

From: Ken Hilderbrand (ken.hilderbrand@hmsc.orst.edu)
Date: Wed May 17 2000 - 12:07:31 PDT

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    Jan, I hope you get a direct response from a vendor of cleaning chemicals
    near you. If not, try to find one in your area. I don't think a general
    response will help you much. One needs to know the specifics of the
    container construction - but I would presume that at some point the
    refrigeration failed (if it was a frozen shipment) and that leakage of
    juices has seeped into cracks in the walls and floor. The odor will not be
    absorbed by the refrigerator system but it will be hard to remove from the
    evaporator coils, etc.

    An acid cleaner will help neutralize the ammonia-like odors but will
    probably not be able to penetrate into the construction materials if they
    are wood. Do not try vinegar in the "English Fish and Chip Tradition"
    without first getting some on site professional advice. Cleaning a container
    van will not be as simple as washing out a plastic ice chest with vinegar
    and water.

    Please be aware that highly spoiled fish will emit H2S (hydrogen sulfide)
    gases which can be lethal. There are occasional reports of people dying
    after entering the holds of boats containing rotting fish. Adequate
    breathing apparatus is necessary unless the vapors can be cleared prior to
    entry.

    You didn't say if the fish is still in the container and if so is it frozen?
    If it is not frozen you will need to move it to a landfill or such place to
    dump it. Right away. And don't let anyone enter it without breathing
    apparatus.

    Ken H

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jan Visagie [mailto:jvisagie@iafrica.com.na]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:28 AM
    To: ken.hilderbrand@hmsc.orst.edu; Seafood group
    Subject: Re: Ammonia in fish

    To : Seafood listserve

    Re : Ammonia odours in fish. (Odour damage?)

    I would greatly appreciate some of your knowledge on the following:

    Will fish (H&G Shark and Swordfish mixed) that has a very, very, strong
    ammonia (no breathing possible) odour leave permanent odour damage to a
    refrigerated container if loaded? Or can the odour be removed through the
    use of certain chemicals? Can the odour be absorbed by the refrigerator
    system?

    The fish is loose without packaging and is in direct contact with the
    container's interior panels. The fish is in a terrible condition with
    serious discolouring to meat. I am still awaiting analysis results but
    expect shocking results on ammonia & TMA levels.

    Thankfully,

    Jan Visagie
    Cargo Surveyor
    Walvis Bay
    Namibia
    Tel +264 64 209482
    Fax +264 64 209481
    jvisagie@iafrica.com.na



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