Re: YPS SMOKED FISH

From: MARIONDEWITTY@aol.com
Date: Tue Mar 28 2000 - 05:14:47 PST

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    Dear Listers:

    Thank you very much John for your clarification on the exaggerated addition
    profile on YPS from a well intended response from an earlier source. If the
    allowable use for iron complexed cyanide was 0.1% we would have a serious
    problem with our food supply. My concerns are not with currant regulations
    but with a potential hazard. CFR recognizes many additives that fall into the
    category of being useful for many years but in the light of new evaluation
    techniques prove to be toxic. YPS has been around for a century in food but
    simple scrutiny leads me to believe that David may have stumbled across
    something here and my questions still remain the same.

    If we recognize the fact that COMPLEXED iron cyanide can be effected by sun
    light, weak acids, ammonia, and temperature fluctuations what precautions can
    we take to prevent this from creating a problem on brine treated smoked fish?
    Should we package the product in card board boxes and then take other GMP
    steps to prevent the generation of free cyanide? Im concerned with not only
    the safety issues but with being told several years down the path that my
    group had participated in a practice that should have been never allowed in
    the first place.

    In my one week of readings on the subject of YPS I have found that the Salt
    Institute's Home page is very useful in understanding the precautions their
    industry recognizes. Road salt for instance is treated with 100 PPM YPS as
    an anti cake and my initial study indicates that this industry goes to great
    lengths to caution their members to keep their treated salt away from
    sunlight to prevent the generation of free cyanide. The tobacco industry has
    used ammonia and YPS for more than 70 years on cigarettes and their industry
    advisers recommend that cigarettes be wrapped tightly in aluminum foil
    wrappers to prevent sunlight from effecting this additive.

    Since David's letter I have started to read about cyanide usage and each day
    I become more concerned. Like most people I always thought salt was just salt
    but it really isn't that simple. (CFR still allows aluminum silicon dioxide
    as an anti cake in salt)

    I would really appreciate more feed back on this question especially if
    someone has information on compatibility studies involving YPS coming in
    contact with ammonia and weak acids. How is YPS absorbed in blood and muscle
    tissues of treated fish? Are there heavy metal interactions on brined fish
    using even small concentrations of YPS found in food grade salt? If hydrogen
    cyanide is generated by sunlight breaking the iron bonds in YPS what kind of
    volumes of this gas are we going to have to anticipate? If free cyanide is
    indeed compounded in brined fish by sun light or other chemical mechanics
    what effect do these free cyanides have on human tissues when they are stored
    and recycled by vital organs? It would be very helpful to have responses
    other than telling us that there is cyanide in almond extract as an assurance
    for cyanide safety issues in processed foods.

    David's simple question has caused me to question what has always been
    understood as a common practice in processing fish. I fully understand the
    CFR in this area but the more I read the wider the gap is becoming between
    what is recognized as safe and what common sense and some old fashioned
    chemistry is showing may not be safe at all.

    Sincerely,

    Marion Dewitty



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