Re the notice of the new Ninth Circuit site included below:
Actually --
The United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit and The
United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit have had WEB
sites with the text of opinions for at least a year if not more.
The new Ninth Circuit site is quite glitzy and attractive and must
have taken an lot of court staff time to put together --
unfortunately, the new Ninth Circuit site DOES NOT contain the full
text of Ninth Circuit opinions -- users are referred to the Villanova
site. Those wishing to obtain opinions directly from the Ninth
Circuit must use the 9th Circuit Pacer system at .60 a minute. The
funds from Pacer are supposed to be used for public access to court
information.
It is also worth pointing out the following:
The 11th and Federal circuits only archive their opinions for 90
days.
The 11th Circuit site requires one to download a zipped file of all
opinions in a month -- it is take it all or nothing.
The Chief Judge of the Ninth Circuit and the others administering
that Circuit are opposed to the ABA Citation proposal which is
currently under consideration by the Automation Committee of the
Judicial Conference of the United States. See HyperLaw's WEB site
for the comments of this and other courts [absent from commenters are
those running the law school WEB site.] Without an official
permanent citation, these and other WEB opinions from federal courts
will remain dumbed-down fodder for the masses. It is a shame that the
Ninth Circuit's apparently adept computer staff has been asked to
apply the resources to put up a sophisticated and attractive WEB site
using Lotus Notes Domino as its web server, and while we are being
told by those running the Ninth Circuit that there are insufficient
resources to assign paragraph and sequence numbers to opinions, and
maintain a simple FTP archives of citable and authoritative opinions.
Indeed, the work of inserting paragraph numbers and sequence numbers
could easily be done by the slip opinion printer of the Ninth Circuit
which actually prepares the electronic versions of opinions that are
made available. The slip opinion printer is the West Group -- having
merged with LCP which acquired Barclay's-Electrographics, the ninth
circuit printer, a few years ago. This is one reason that the slip
opinions get up on Westlaw so fast.
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:34:23 -0400
From: "M. Sean Fosmire" <fosmire@MAIL.PORTUP.COM>
Reply-To: Lawyers and the Internet <NET-LAWYERS@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender: fosmire@portup.com
Subject: [NET-LAWYERS] Addition to Courts.net site
To: Lawyers and the Internet <NET-LAWYERS@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
The newest addition to the Courts.net site is a link to the new site
maintained by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. There are two
remarkable
points to note:
(1) This is the first site set up by a Federal Circuit Court. We
have seen
numerous sites which have Circuit Court information, copies of
decided
cases, etc., but until now all have been created and maintained by
law
schools or other outside agencies rather than by the courts
themselves.
(2) This is the first court site (that I am aware of) which is based
on
Lotus Notes Domino as its web server. I believe that Domino is the
most
sophisticated server for messaging by courts (and by others). See
http://www.courts.net/file-storage-options.htm for some comments.
The Ninth Circuit site, however, does not include any messaging,
posting,
or discussion capabilities.
The direct URL is http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/
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Marquette, Michigan
Courts.net
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