See Tisa Neff's message below. Very disconcerting. One more thing to add
to that recent petition that was circulated about improving PACER.
--Best Regards,
Carole
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-----Original Message----- From: Tisa Neff [mailto:tneff@rodey.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:14 PM To: clevitt@netforlawyers.com Subject: RE: [LAW-LIB:59341] Does anyone else have this problem with PACER?
Carole, I get the same thing you do when not logged in, and when I log in I get the Second, Eleventh, and Federal Circuits are not included. Very strange indeed!
Tisa Neff Rodey Law Firm
-----Original Message----- From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf Of Carole Levitt Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:23 PM To: 'Erika V. Wayne'; law-lib@ucdavis.edu Subject: [LAW-LIB:59341] Does anyone else have this problem with PACER?
In trying to figure out which courts are NOT on the U.S.Party/Case Index and on PACER I am coming up with two different answers depending on if I am logged in or not logged in!
When I email PACER about this, they tell me it is now fixed, and that all the documentation says the same thing. But, it doesn't. Has anyone figured this out??
Here is what happens:
Before I log in at PACER, I visit http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/psco/cgi-bin/miss-court.pl to check which courts are NOT on the U.S.Party/Case Index and this is what I find:
U.S. Party Case Index: Non-Participating Courts As of: Tuesday June 23, 2009 U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, SECOND CIRCUIT U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, FIFTH CIRCUIT U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, SEVENTH CIRCUIT U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, ELEVENTH CIRCUIT U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, FEDERAL CIRCUIT
After I log in, I check again and this is what I find:
Courts not Included in the Index Tue Jun 23 18:07:44 CDT 2009
U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, SEVENTH CIRCUIT U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, ELEVENTH CIRCUIT U.S. COURT OF APPEALS, FEDERAL CIRCUIT
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Best Regards,
Carole
Carole Levitt J.D., M.L.S., President, Internet For Lawyers / clevitt@netforlawyers.com / http://www.linkedin.com/in/clevitt1 / www.netforlawyers.com /
7820 Enchanted Hills Blvd., Ste A-215, Rio Rancho, NM, 87144 / phone: 310/559-2247
**LOOK FOR OUR NEW BOOK COMING THIS SUMMER FIND INFO LIKE A PRO: INVESTIGATIVE RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET (ABA LPM)**
SEMINAR SPEAKER: http://www.livecleseminars.com; AUTHOR: The Lawyer's Guide to Fact Finding on the Internet, ABA 2006 (http://www.internetfactfinder.com; AUTHOR: The Cybersleuth's Guide to the Internet, 2008 (http://www.netforlawyers.com/prod01.htm);CO-CHAIR: Acquisitions Committee, ABA LPM Publications Advisory Board and Executive Council Member; PAST CHAIR: California State Bar LPMT Section(http://www.calbar.ca.gov/lpmt)
-----Original Message----- From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu] On Behalf Of Erika V. Wayne Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:56 AM To: law-lib@ucdavis.edu Subject: [LAW-LIB:59268] Improve PACER
Folks,
We crafted a very short petition directed at the Administrative Office of the US Courts to improve PACER.
The petition is online here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/improve-PACER.
It reads:
We ask the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts to improve PACER by enhancing the authenticity, usability and availability of the system. We the undersigned, urge the Administrative Office of the US Courts (AO) to make the following changes to the PACER system: For verification and reliability, the AO should digitally sign every document put into PACER using readily available technology. PACER needs to be much more readily accessible if it is to be usable for research, education, and the practice of law. Improved accessibility includes both lowering the costs for using PACER and enhancing the web interfaces.
Depository libraries should also have free access to PACER.
Please sign the petition, comment on the ideas and share the petition with your friends and colleagues!
I encourage you to sign the petition. And if you have any questions about it, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Thank you,
Erika Wayne
Robert Crown Law Library Stanford Law School Stanford, CA 94305 650-723-2471 evwayne@stanford.edu
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