[LAW-LIB:56559] RE: Sarah Palin and Libraries

From: Jim Milles (jgmilles@buffalo.edu)
Date: Fri Sep 05 2008 - 07:23:37 PDT

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    I don't understand that comment at all. How is politics incompatible with
    adulthood?

    Jim

    On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Kevin Shelton <Kevin.Shelton@hofstra.edu>wrote:

    > While it may be impossible to declare any unmoderated listserv a
    > "politics-free zone", it is an admirable desideratum to try to keep this
    > one so, in my opinion. Perhaps that is one measure of adulthood?
    >
    >
    > Kevin Shelton
    >
    > Reference Librarian
    > Barbara and Maurice A. Deane Law Library
    > Hofstra University School of Law
    > 122 Hofstra University
    > Hempstead, New York 11549-1220
    > Telephone: (516) 463-6150
    > Fax: (516) 463-5129
    > E-mail: lawkbs@hofstra.edu
    >
    >
    > >>> "Jim Milles" <jgmilles@buffalo.edu> 9/4/2008 5:09 PM >>>
    > *sigh*
    >
    > This "issue" comes up every election year...
    >
    > We're all professionals here, and we're all adults. We may disagree,
    > but
    > over the years we've generally disagreed in a civil fashion. Politics
    > is
    > important, and this election in particular presents a very clear
    > choice--if
    > you don't think so, no matter which side you come down on, you haven't
    > been
    > paying attention. Trying to declare this listserv a politics-free zone
    > is
    > both pointless and misguided.
    >
    > Jim Milles
    >
    > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Stephanie Huthmacher
    > <shuthmacher@lglaw.com>wrote:
    >
    > > Spoken like a true member of the legal profession…
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I, too, am a legal librarian. I find the banning of books repulsive
    > and
    > > any intrusion into ones personal library records abhorrent.
    > >
    > > Perhaps if parents were to talk to their children, or pop their heads
    > into
    > > their rooms once in a while, they could get an idea on what the kids
    > are
    > > doing, rather than relying on the librarian to monitor behavior.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > If you don't like a book, don't read it – if you don't like a
    > movie, don't
    > > watch it. No one holds a gun to anyone's heading forcing them to do
    > > anything they find offensive. Time to take responsibility for your
    > own
    > > actions without impinging on the rights of others…
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Stephanie N. Huthmacher, MLS
    > >
    > > 42 Delaware Avenue, Suite 120
    > >
    > > Buffalo, New York 14202-3924
    > >
    > > Phone: 716.849.1333 ext. 330
    > >
    > > Fax: 716.855.1580
    > >
    > > E-mail: shuthmacher@lglaw.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ------------------------------
    > >
    > > *From:* owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu]
    > *On
    > > Behalf Of *Frye, Nanna
    > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:42 PM
    > > *To:* Library; law-lib@ucdavis.edu
    > > *Subject:* [LAW-LIB:56539] RE: Sarah Palin and Libraries
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Ah, but you did inject partisan politics into it, Paula, by the
    > manner
    > > in which you related these facts. Is anyone in doubt as to your
    > position on
    > > Sarah Palin after reading your posting? You certainly did not supply
    > both
    > > sides of the story. Reasonable minds could differ on the legislation
    > you
    > > mentioned below on whether parents could learn about the books their
    > > children are borrowing from a library. If your teenage child has
    > been moody
    > > and you discover a library book on suicide in the teenager's room,
    > shouldn't
    > > you be able to find out if the child had borrowed other books on
    > suicide?
    > > Many would say "yes." Was the censoring a blanket act that applied
    > to
    > > adults and children or just to children? Are we talking about
    > literary
    > > books or titillating junk novellas that Palin wanted to censor?
    > Again, we
    > > don't have both sides of the story. After many, many years of
    > working for a
    > > court, it is very rare when there are not two sides to a story.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I will reserve judgment until I have ALL of the facts. I would
    > prefer
    > > that we avoid political postings on law-lib about the presidential
    > election
    > > even if they do allegedly deal with "library topics."
    > >
    > > Nanna Frye, Law Librarian
    > > Court of Appeal
    > > San Diego, CA
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ------------------------------
    > >
    > > *From:* owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu]
    > *On
    > > Behalf Of *Library
    > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:54 AM
    > > *To:* law-lib@ucdavis.edu
    > > *Subject:* [LAW-LIB:56536] Sarah Palin and Libraries
    > >
    > > I know this isn't the place for partisan politics and I'm not going
    > to
    > > discuss what I think of Sarah Palin's positions on abortion or
    > foreign
    > > policy or whether polar bears belong on the Endangered Species Act.
    > But she
    > > did try to censor books in the Wasilla Public Library and she did try
    > to
    > > fire the librarian for not agreeing to do so. And she did support a
    > bill in
    > > the legislature that would have forced librarians to tell parents
    > what books
    > > their children had checked out of the library.
    > >
    > > I thought, as librarians, you might want to know her position on
    > libraries
    > > and censorship.
    > > There is a well documented anti-Palin librarian's web site that
    > discusses
    > > this. issues:http://librariansagainstpalin.wordpress.com/
    > >
    > > Paula Lichtenberg, Librarian
    > > Keker & Van Nest LLP, San Francisco
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Jim Milles
    > Vice Dean for Legal Information Services and Director of the Law
    > Library
    > Professor of Law
    > University at Buffalo Law School
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    Professor of Law
    University at Buffalo Law School
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