[LAW-LIB:56556] RE: Sarah Palin and Libraries

From: Kevin Shelton (Kevin.Shelton@hofstra.edu)
Date: Fri Sep 05 2008 - 07:02:01 PDT

  • Next message: Stephanie Huthmacher: "[LAW-LIB:56557] RE: Sarah Palin and Libraries"

    While it may be impossible to declare any unmoderated listserv a
    "politics-free zone", it is an admirable desideratum to try to keep this
    one so, in my opinion. Perhaps that is one measure of adulthood?

    Kevin Shelton

    Reference Librarian
    Barbara and Maurice A. Deane Law Library
    Hofstra University School of Law
    122 Hofstra University
    Hempstead, New York 11549-1220
    Telephone: (516) 463-6150
    Fax: (516) 463-5129
    E-mail: lawkbs@hofstra.edu

    >>> "Jim Milles" <jgmilles@buffalo.edu> 9/4/2008 5:09 PM >>>
    *sigh*

    This "issue" comes up every election year...

    We're all professionals here, and we're all adults. We may disagree,
    but
    over the years we've generally disagreed in a civil fashion. Politics
    is
    important, and this election in particular presents a very clear
    choice--if
    you don't think so, no matter which side you come down on, you haven't
    been
    paying attention. Trying to declare this listserv a politics-free zone
    is
    both pointless and misguided.

    Jim Milles

    On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Stephanie Huthmacher
    <shuthmacher@lglaw.com>wrote:

    > Spoken like a true member of the legal profession…
    >
    >
    >
    > I, too, am a legal librarian. I find the banning of books repulsive
    and
    > any intrusion into ones personal library records abhorrent.
    >
    > Perhaps if parents were to talk to their children, or pop their heads
    into
    > their rooms once in a while, they could get an idea on what the kids
    are
    > doing, rather than relying on the librarian to monitor behavior.
    >
    >
    >
    > If you don't like a book, don't read it – if you don't like a
    movie, don't
    > watch it. No one holds a gun to anyone's heading forcing them to do
    > anything they find offensive. Time to take responsibility for your
    own
    > actions without impinging on the rights of others…
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Stephanie N. Huthmacher, MLS
    >
    > 42 Delaware Avenue, Suite 120
    >
    > Buffalo, New York 14202-3924
    >
    > Phone: 716.849.1333 ext. 330
    >
    > Fax: 716.855.1580
    >
    > E-mail: shuthmacher@lglaw.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > *From:* owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu]
    *On
    > Behalf Of *Frye, Nanna
    > *Sent:* Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:42 PM
    > *To:* Library; law-lib@ucdavis.edu
    > *Subject:* [LAW-LIB:56539] RE: Sarah Palin and Libraries
    >
    >
    >
    > Ah, but you did inject partisan politics into it, Paula, by the
    manner
    > in which you related these facts. Is anyone in doubt as to your
    position on
    > Sarah Palin after reading your posting? You certainly did not supply
    both
    > sides of the story. Reasonable minds could differ on the legislation
    you
    > mentioned below on whether parents could learn about the books their
    > children are borrowing from a library. If your teenage child has
    been moody
    > and you discover a library book on suicide in the teenager's room,
    shouldn't
    > you be able to find out if the child had borrowed other books on
    suicide?
    > Many would say "yes." Was the censoring a blanket act that applied
    to
    > adults and children or just to children? Are we talking about
    literary
    > books or titillating junk novellas that Palin wanted to censor?
    Again, we
    > don't have both sides of the story. After many, many years of
    working for a
    > court, it is very rare when there are not two sides to a story.
    >
    >
    >
    > I will reserve judgment until I have ALL of the facts. I would
    prefer
    > that we avoid political postings on law-lib about the presidential
    election
    > even if they do allegedly deal with "library topics."
    >
    > Nanna Frye, Law Librarian
    > Court of Appeal
    > San Diego, CA
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > *From:* owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu]
    *On
    > Behalf Of *Library
    > *Sent:* Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:54 AM
    > *To:* law-lib@ucdavis.edu
    > *Subject:* [LAW-LIB:56536] Sarah Palin and Libraries
    >
    > I know this isn't the place for partisan politics and I'm not going
    to
    > discuss what I think of Sarah Palin's positions on abortion or
    foreign
    > policy or whether polar bears belong on the Endangered Species Act.
    But she
    > did try to censor books in the Wasilla Public Library and she did try
    to
    > fire the librarian for not agreeing to do so. And she did support a
    bill in
    > the legislature that would have forced librarians to tell parents
    what books
    > their children had checked out of the library.
    >
    > I thought, as librarians, you might want to know her position on
    libraries
    > and censorship.
    > There is a well documented anti-Palin librarian's web site that
    discusses
    > this. issues:http://librariansagainstpalin.wordpress.com/
    >
    > Paula Lichtenberg, Librarian
    > Keker & Van Nest LLP, San Francisco
    >

    -- 
    Jim Milles
    Vice Dean for Legal Information Services and Director of the Law
    Library
    Professor of Law
    University at Buffalo Law School
    208 O'Brian Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260
    (716) 645-2089, jgmilles@buffalo.edu 
    http://ClaimID.com/jmilles 
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