Hi Randy,
I was most disappointed to learn that you only heard from about ten
persons on Law-Lib who have created "kill files" to automatically
delete anything and everything that I send to Law-Lib.
In years gone by I used to have a far higher "kill file" rating, so
my standards have plainly slipped very badly indeed in recent times.
That is very worrying indeed.
I sincerely apologise, and undertake henceforth to give to all avid
Law-Lib readers far more opportunities to create "kill files" and/or
use their "delete" keys in respect of my postings.
'Avag'dday : - )
Ron Huttner LL.B (Hons)
(Retired) Barrister, Solicitor, Law Lecturer and Legal Researcher
Melbourne
Victoria
Australia
On 07/03/2007, at 3:11 AM, Beckford, Randy wrote:
> Hello Mr. Huttner,
>
> As a former educator and now librarian, I am a huge advocate for
> First Amendment rights. Far from advocating "censorship" in
> general, I do, however, advocate disciplining individuals who
> violate established rules of professionalism and civility within a
> specific discourse community. Because I am new to this business, I
> mistakenly assumed that this online community might already have an
> established policy against the kind of post you made which
> contained so many irrelevant inflammatory remarks over and above
> your basic inquiry. I stand before you humbly corrected regarding
> this community's "accepted practice" of allowing potentially
> offensive posts.
>
> As a new member of this community, I greatly appreciated all those
> colleagues who wrote messages welcoming me into this fascinating
> profession. Regrettably, I really did not appreciate those
> individuals who implied that I might want to consider a different
> career in some other field or that somehow the political climate of
> the county where I work has any relevance to my function as a law
> librarian. My personal opinions and life have nothing to do with
> the interactions I have with my patrons, and nothing to do with the
> help I respectfully request from other professionals in this field.
>
> Ten out of the seventeen respondents to my complaint against your
> post (both on- and offlist) practice personal censorship by
> automatically deleting any messages they see from you. However,
> six colleagues regard your posting "style" favorably in that they
> describe you as "insightful", "learned", "spicy", "well-enjoyed",
> and "having vast knowledge". As a result of this testimony, I do
> indeed look forward to getting to know you even better
> professionally--and, the next time I'm in Australia, perhaps we can
> privately commiserate about American politics over a pint or two,
> sing Bryan Carson's song, and check out the "Law Librarian Hotties"
> at http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/02/
> law_librarian_hotties_your_fem.php.
>
> Cheers, mate.
> Randy
>
> -------------------
> W. Randolph Beckford, Library Information Assistant
> Fairfax Public Law Library
> 703-246-2172
>
>
> From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu]
> On Behalf Of Ronald Huttner
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:30 AM
> To: law-lib List
> Subject: Re: Alleged Breaches By Major Michael Mori Of The Military
> Code - Reply
>
> Randy,
> You could have tried responding to the request for information
> contained in my posting. Or did you fail to notice that I did
> actually request information ? And God forbid that there should
> ever be a Law Librarian anywhere on this planet who advocates
> censorship of any criticism of the current disgraces that are (a)
> Guantanamo and (b) the current Military Commissions.
> The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
>
> Ron Huttner LL.B (Hons)
> (Retired) Barrister, Solicitor, Law Lecturer and Legal Researcher
> Melbourne
> Victoria
> Australia
>
>
>
> On 06/03/2007, at 1:10 AM, Beckford, Randy wrote:
>
>> I am new to this business of law librarianship and am very
>> disappointed by this post. Extremely unprofessional. Seems to me
>> that we should keep personal opinions to ourselves and concentrate
>> on the job of helping our patrons find the information they need
>> without bias. Is this list moderated by anyone? Can users be
>> censored for this kind of abuse, if done repeatedly?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -------------------
>> W. Randolph Beckford, Library Information Assistant
>> Fairfax Public Law Library
>> 4110 Chain Bridge Rd. Rm. 308
>> Fairfax, VA 22030
>> 703-246-2172
>>
>> From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Ronald Huttner
>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:26 PM
>> To: law-Lib List; International Law Librarians List (Int-Law)
>> Subject: Alleged Breaches By Major Michael Mori Of The Military Code
>>
>> Please excuse cross-posting.
>> As if the shocking and disgraceful circus that currently
>> constitutes the pending "trial" of Guantanamo detainee David Hicks
>> by a kangaroo court disguised as a Military Commission is not
>> disgusting enough already, we now learn in our Australian
>> newspapers today that the USA "prosecutors" are proposing to bring
>> some absurd charges against Major Michael Mori for some alleged
>> breach of some Military Code in his vigorous defence of David
>> Hicks to date. Could some informed Law-Libber please refer me to
>> the actual text of the relevant provision that Major Mori is
>> supposed to have breached ? I went to hear Major Mori speak on
>> the David Hicks case in Melbourne last Thursday night, and must
>> say that, if his moderate and convincing "speaking out" on the
>> injustices in this case does, indeed, constitute an offence under
>> current USA law, then there is something HORRIBLY wrong with the
>> rule of law in the USA these days. But I guess we knew that already.
>> P.S. I f you feel minded to "flame" me for this posting, save your
>> electrons and don't bother. All flames will be trashed.
>>
>>
>> Ron Huttner LL.B (Hons)
>> (Retired) Barrister, Solicitor, Law Lecturer and Legal Researcher
>> Melbourne
>> Victoria
>> Australia
>
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Wed Nov 14 2007 - 20:46:52 PST