But many of our newer law librarians are not building that network over
time relying on our good nature and generosity over the Internet.. Gen
X & Y don't seem to think networking or verifying are necessary and
beneficial. Look at the average age the next AALL or chapter meeting
you attend. Who's there learning from colleagues, friends and vendors?
And it still drives me crazy why expose your novice status to the world
when that's why we seek mentors and develop and nurture relationships
with colleagues.
just my 2 cents on a rainy Friday evening.
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From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu] On
Behalf Of Laura Orr
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 5:39 PM
To: law lib
Subject: RE: Friday musings: Law-lib as Blog
Scott:
It used to drive me crazy too and I'd think, why don't they try locally?
Didn't they learn this in library school? Don't they have a local law
librarian to phone?
But then I remember what I knew (rather didn't know) when I was a new
librarian and the craziness washes away. I had absolutely marvelous law
librarian colleagues, with the patience of saints, who stayed with me
through that whole traumatic new librarian learning curve and to this
day I thank them (University of Maryland law school library staff back
when I started in the late 80's - thank you!). Also, some of these
law-lib posters are all alone and I can't imagine how difficult that
must be for someone new to the profession. They have only us until they
find or build a local network, learn about the process of librarianship,
and legal bibliography.
Besides, think how many of our lawyer patrons and publisher reps don't
know what CFR is :-)
Laura
Laura Orr
Law Librarian
Washington County Law Library
111 NE Lincoln Street
Hillsboro, OR 97124
Phone: 503-846-8870
Fax: 503-846-3515
Email: laura_orr@co.washington.or.us
If you ask me anything I don't know, I'm not going to answer ...
attributed to Yogi Berra
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Burgh [mailto:sgburgh@ameritech.net]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Laura Orr; law lib
Subject: Re: Friday musings: Law-lib as Blog
Nice posting. I too have thoughts on the use of law-lib.
But speaking of law-lib as an ILL tool sure hits me. Using the
list serve as a primary source of of interlibrary loan activity belies a
basic lack of librarianship.
Whenever I see some of these requests for basic ILL on the list
serv, I think, haven't these people ever heard of First Search or OCLC.
Many of the list serv ILL requesters do not even indicate what they have
already tried. Is this not taught in the library schools anymore or are
these untrained library workers? One can search and see who owns the
item pretty quickly. Using the listserv as an interlibrary loan
substitute or a line of first attack is not something I would do or
allow a staff member to do.
Scott Burgh
Chief Law Librarian
City of Chicago Department of Law Library
Laura Orr <Laura_Orr@co.washington.or.us> wrote:
Isn't Law-lib our very own communal blog - one without
all the usual blog
pressures? We can write things like this and we have
done so for years (is
law-lib 15 years old yet? Anyone ready to party :-),
without having to set
up a blog, figure out how to post or worry about things
like this
(http://bojack.org/index.shtml, 10/13 posting), and
without the pressures of
having to keep it alive and kicking with enough oomph
each day to keep the
readers coming back while still trying to do our jobs.
(This from someone
who has just set up her first blog and wants to keep it
in the closet for a
while until I figure out how to do it and my job without
giving up my
sanity.)
Law-lib did used to be more fun, more edgy, but it
hasn't lost its touch
totally. It's an ILL tool, but it is much more (see my
Law-lib posting of
10/21/04). We're not AALL and have no affiliation to it,
so have no
obligation to follow the usual rules about "staying on
subject." We can
make our own rules of participation and etiquette, but
still keep hold of a
personality - a real one and not a corporate or stodgy
professional
association one. AALL is awfully dull sometimes, don't
you think?
Law librarians are so much more than Needs and Offers
conduits. We're funny,
silly even, passionate about our work, aggravated to
distraction,
misunderstood, outspoken, and committed to sharing
information with our
patrons. I'm the first one to say AALL and its
counterparts in every
profession should keep to their missions and stay away
from taking stands on
issues unrelated to that mission. But here on Law-lib,
we're relatively
free. (And anyone who wants an ILL-only listserve is
welcome to find a host
and set one up. Most of us will join.) Listserve
technology may be low
tech, but it's very easy to manage. Too many Law-lib
emails? Switch to
Digest. Voila, problem solved. Or use the archives
(http://lawlibrary.ucdavis.edu/LAWLIB/lawlib.html).
They're not always up
to date, but if you just want to see what's going on, or
has gone on, with
law librarians, it can't be beat. This sort-of low tech
technology (I grew
up in the punch card and then the DOS world) can hold
its own with the new.
Anyway, forgive the somewhat disjointed meanderings
through law-lib and law
librarianship. I do believe that both might just be
equally important to
me.
Laura
P.S. Overheard by a librarian at SLA in Toronto (I heard
it 3rd hand so
don't quote me): Hotel worker: "I love these librarians.
They drink like
fish but don't trash the rooms." (Presumably we tip well
too :-)
Laura Orr
Law Librarian
Washington County Law Library
111 NE Lincoln Street
Hillsboro, OR 97124
Phone: 503-846-8870
Fax: 503-846-3515
Email: laura_orr@co.washington.or.us
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