Ron, you're the best ;-) - One point I overheard last evening on some comedy
show in regards to Miers was something to the effect that she was the best
candidate found within a "20 mile radius of the White House" - I'm assuming
a reference to cronyism. I found that assumption accurate when the following
morning one of the major news networks discussed Pres. Bush's long standing
professional friendship w/ Miers - that she was well regarded in - no
surprise - Texas. A high number of Bush appointments across the board have
been from Texas - both individuals as well as companies. - that does fill
the definition for cronyism.
Please don't take this observation as "Bush bashing" - I've been "bashed"
enough myself as a librarian by the current administration that termed
librarians as "hysterical" - among other choice derogatory descriptors. -
However, I'm not as sensitive to the criticism - it comes w/ the territory
;-) As an American we agree to discuss - to be free to debate: Stand up for
what we believe & "take it"(opposition) like an American"
After all, if you add the uniform, nodding "yes" to cronyism, you have the
Republic of China, ye olde USSR & other similar places where "bashing" - aka
opinion or debate is verboten..
Karen Mahnk, -
Lake Park PL, Fl.,
On 10/6/05, Stanley R. Conrad <conrads@stjohns.edu> wrote:
>
> Nanna-
>
> If derogatory statements have been directed anywhere in this thread, I
> think they've been focused through Miers on the administration's disastrous
> record of cronyism (most glaring recent example is, of course, appointing a
> failed Arabian Horse judge to run FEMA). Questions about Ms. Miers'
> qualifications and views are of supreme importance to anyone who cares
> about, or is involved in the law. And to the degree that the administration
> resists the release of documents written by her, enquiring minds should be
> asking why.
>
> Comparing her case to Justice Powell is silly, actually. Read the
> biographical information you posted. Powell was not a crony of the
> administration that appointed him. Ms. Miers may be qualified -- we may
> never know -- but describing her as a "crony" is not a political judgment.
> It's a fact.
>
> Stanley
>
> =================================<
> Stanley R. Conrad, JD/MLS
> Reference / Special Collections Librarian
> Rittenberg Law Library
> St. John's University School of Law
> 8000 Utopia Parkway
> Jamaica, NY 11439
> conrads@stjohns.edu
> 718-990-2012 (voice)
> 718-990-6649 (fax)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frye, Nanna [mailto:Nanna.Frye@jud.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thu 10/6/2005 6:24 PM
> To: Stanley R. Conrad; Samuel E Trosow
> Cc: law-lib@ucdavis.edu
> Subject: RE: Harriet Miers - Supreme Court Nominee
>
>
>
> I am tired of the derogatory statements and intimations that
> Harriet Miers is unqualified solely because she has no prior judicial
> experience. Are you prepared to state that all nominees must have prior
> judicial experience? If so, then you are saying that U.S. Supreme Court
> Justice Lewis Powell was unqualified for the position. Here is his
> biographical information posted by the Supreme Court Historical Society.
>
> LEWIS F. POWELL, JR., was born in Suffolk, Virginia, on September 19,
> 1907, and lived most of his life in Richmond, Virginia. He was graduated
> from Washington and Lee University in 1929 and from Washington and Lee
> University Law School in 1931. In 1932, he received a master's degree
> from Harvard Law School. Powell entered practice with a Richmond law
> firm, where he became a senior partner and continued his association
> until 1971. During World War II, he served in the United States Army Air
> Force in Europe and North America. After the War, Powell resumed his law
> practice. He served as the President of the American Bar Association
> from 1964 to 1965 and of the American College of Trial Lawyers from 1968
> to 1969. In 1966, he served as a member of President Lyndon B. Johnson's
> Crime Commission. On October 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon
> nominated Powell to the Supreme Court of the United States. The Senate
> confirmed the appointment on December 6, 1971. Powell served on the
> Supreme Court for fifteen years. He retired on June 26, 1987, at the age
> of seventy-nine.
>
> Justice Powell is not a rare anomaly. One of the justices for
> the court where I work did not have judicial experience prior to his
> appointment and he is a most excellent jurist.
>
> Nanna Frye, Law Librarian
> Court of Appeal
> San Diego, CA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu] On
> Behalf Of Stanley R. Conrad
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:42 PM
> To: Samuel E Trosow
> Cc: law-lib@ucdavis.edu
> Subject: RE: Harriet Miers - Supreme Court Nominee
>
> Good point, Sam.
>
> It is of enormous importance to everyone involved in the law --
> certainly should be to law librarians. The fact that political issues
> factor into the nomination/confirmation process is wildly off point.
> The outcome of the nomination process here, ferreting out Miers'
> qualifications (or lack of them), her possible impact on the law for the
> next generation ... none of this should be trivialized by labeling the
> discussion "political."
>
> Unfortunately, as we've already heard, the administration is planning to
> refuse any/all requests for the work product she produced while under
> Bush's wing, justifying this with "executive privilege."
>
> We're apt to end up knowing much less about her than we knew about
> Roberts when he was confirmed.
>
> Stanley
>
>
> =================================<
> Stanley R. Conrad, JD/MLS
> Reference / Special Collections Librarian Rittenberg Law Library St.
> John's University School of Law 8000 Utopia Parkway
> Jamaica, NY 11439
> conrads@stjohns.edu
> 718-990-2012 (voice)
> 718-990-6649 (fax)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu on behalf of Samuel E Trosow
> Sent: Thu 10/6/2005 4:54 PM
> To: Merring, Lynn
> Cc: law-lib@ucdavis.edu
> Subject: RE: Harriet Miers - Supreme Court Nominee
>
>
>
> The make up of the Supreme Court is an issue that has a profound
> affect on all
> of us. This goes for our personal as well as professional lives.
> Supreme Court
> nominations are few and far between. Unlike elections, which
> can be figured
> with some regularity, Supreme Court nominations are very special
> events. All
> the moreso when the balance on the court is so tenuous and
> important policy
> issues hang in the balance. As participants in the legal system,
> law librarians,
> like others certain should be engaged in the process. Trying to
> squelch
> discussion over a particular policy issue is an unfortunate, yet
> recurring
> occurance on this list, yet it comes up from time to time. All
> in all I think
> people on this list are quite capable of picking and chosing
> amongst the variety
> of topics on this board to read and respond to. We don't need
> self-appointed
> censors like yourself to tell us what is appropriate.
>
> But if you must have the discussion framed in terms of a
> research question to
> pass your own litmus test of propriety on this list, then what
> can you find out
> about her record that gives us any evidence about how she may
> respond to the
> important issues of the day?
>
> Sam Trosow
> University of Western Ontario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Merring, Lynn" <LMerring@SYCR.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2005 4:46 pm
> Subject: RE: Harriet Miers - Supreme Court Nominee
>
> > Could we not turn this into a political discussion board,
> please?
> > If you've
> > got a serious research issue about Mier, cool. If all you want
> to
> > do is bash
> > a political figure - not appropriate for this board.
> >
> > Lynn Connor Merring
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MGMEDIATOR@aol.com [mailto:MGMEDIATOR@aol.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:25 PM
> > To: rshutt@netspace.net.au; law-lib@ucdavis.edu
> > Subject: Re: Harriet Miers - Supreme Court Nominee
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously she limits her contact to very small circles of men
> that
> > she has
> > met...we need much more than a big band as mr bush would have
> been
> > betterserved wearing a Tuba when he made the
> announcement...sorta
> > like the
> > broadway play the music man with him confusing instruments as
> > usual...orblowing on the wrong end of them....seems he has
> been
> > allowed to be off
> > script a lot lately as his inner circle faces criminal
> inquiries
> > and knee
> > surgery or are just plain out to vacation (or lunch)... and
> rumors
> > also have
> > it that he is hitting the bottle again....guess he needs to
> beware
> > of not
> > attempting to eat pretzels at the same time, we all know what
> > happened last
> > time...or do we???
> >
> > cheers.....& peace be with ya....
> >
> > In a message dated 10/6/2005 3:03:03 P.M. Eastern Standard
> Time,
> > rshutt@netspace.net.au writes:
> >
> > Can any USA Law-Libber vouch for the accuracy of reports we
> are
> > getting in our daily press here in Australia that Harriet
> Miers has
> >
> > described George W. Bush
> > as "the most brilliant man (she) has ever met".
> >
> > If these reports are true, and if the good lady truly believes
> that
> >
> > assertion, ought not a big band be playing, "Don't Get Around
> Much
> > Anymore" as her theme tune ?
> >
> > Just my two cents worth : - )
> >
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