I have been presenting at Legal Tech and Legal Works on the topic of
free internet research for about 5 years in my capacity as the Cal State
Bar LPMT Executive Board member--but I ALWAYS emphasize that I am also a
law librarian, besides a lawyer (inactive).
I am very proud of being a law librarian and let the audience know how
much info they can get from their law firm librarians, county/law
school librarians and public library librarians (esp. remote database
access--which blows them away).
If you have a topic and description for a seminar you can send it to me
and I'll pass it on to the appropriate people at Legal Tech and Legal
Works (or I can work with someone at PLL to hook them up directly with
the key people at the shows so they can then be the direct contact).
Carole
Carole Levitt J.D., M.L.S., President, Internet For Lawyers,
P.O. Box 1065, Culver City, CA 90232
phone: 310/559-2247 / fax: 425-790-2717
clevitt@netforlawyers.com; http://www.netforlawyers.com
ABA Author: The Lawyer's Guide to Fact Finding on the Internet
(http://www.internetfactfinder.com)
Past Chair: California State Bar LPMT Section
(http://www.calbar.ca.gov/lpmt)
Lyn Warmath wrote:
>
> I believe Scott Fisher is onto something very important here.Scott
> suggests a forum that is ready-made for us to showcase our skills and
> strut our stuff to the very audiences that could benefit us and our
> institutions most.I believe we are missing huge opportunities if we do
> not pursue his excellent suggestion (I wish I had thought of it) to
> ally ourselves with Legal Tech's established program.
>
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> Where do we go from here?Which AALL committee, subcommittee, special
> interest section, caucus or group is best suited to pursue
> this idea and perhaps consider making such an effort an on-going,
> annual collaboration with Legal Tech?
>
> Lyn Warmath
> Hirschler Fleischer
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> Richmond, Virginia 23219
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> From: bounce-pll-sis-29473@aallnet.org
> [mailto:bounce-pll-sis-29473@aallnet.org] On Behalf Of Fisher, Scott
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:04 PM
> To: Private Law Libraries SIS
> Cc: bounce-pll-sis-29486@aallnet.org
> Subject: [pll-sis] Re: [BULK] - RE: Excellent idea from Kaye
>
> Colleagues and Friends: I have been reading, with interest, the e-mail
> postings about this all day and, I guess, it's my turn to add my two
> cents. I, generally, agree with all that's been said on both sides of
> this issue. Of course, we want and need more exposure as a
> profession. We want to make our administrators see our individual
> worth to the firm. However, in order to provide avenues with which to
> showcase our library's services, and our individual skills and
> abilities, I don't think a lunch with you and your administrator is
> going to shed much new light on our profession or what law librarians
> are doing and capable of doing for the firm. It wouldn't hurt but, I
> don't know think it will do all that much in the long run.In my
> opinion, our administrators need to see us in a new way, in a
> professional environment "outside" of our libraries and the office
> environment. Perhaps, a joint program between your local law library
> organization and your administrator's professional organization or
> asking a vendor to sponsor a round-table discussion that would involve
> the two of you with your colleagues from other area law firms
> discussing issues of interest to both professions. An open discussion
> between the two professions could be very positive - particularly, if
> it can hit on topics of interest to both - like, for example, the
> dreaded cost recovery of Lexis/Westlaw expenses issue that so many of
> us have to deal with. It's particularly frustrating to see the
> opportunities that are missed.
> For example, just this week, I received a preliminary program for
> Legal Tech in NY at the end of this month. I realize, of course, that
> the intent of Legal Tech is not for law librarians but, specifically,
> to display emerging legal technology to the legal market. But, aren't
> we a part of that, too? Weren't we grappling with technology issues
> in our law firm libraries (and, don't we now?) long before attorneys
> had pcs on their desks? Having attended several Legal Tech meetings
> in the past, I can tell you that many of the firms' administrators do
> attend, as do as the firms' attorneys. If you take a look at the
> brochure for Legal Tech, there are several planned programs that touch
> on things that many of us are already involved in at work - knowledge
> management, portals, client development, etc. In my opinion, what is
> missing from Legal Tech is us! There should be, in that program of
> meetings at Legal Tech, a library and legal research technology track
> of programs with law librarians speaking on, and teaching these topics
> to the administrators, attorneys, and technology gurus that attend
> Legal Tech. After all, the foundation of what attorneys do in
> representing their clients begins with legal research. And, what a
> great place to get the attention of the CEO, CIO, and attorneys of
> your firm. By the way, take a look at the sponsoring vendors of Legal
> Tech. Two of the vendors that the law librarian profession works most
> closely with are conference sponsors of Legal Tech this year -
> LexisNexis and Thomson West!These are just my thoughts...thanks for
> reading.Scott
>
> Scott L. Fisher
> Director of Library Services
> WILENTZ GOLDMAN & SPITZER P.A.
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> Woodbridge, NJ 07095
> (T) 732-855-6160
> (F) 732-726-6525
> (E) sfisher@wilentz.com
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martha A. Goldman [mailto:magoldman@JonesDay.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:06 PM
> To: Private Law Libraries SIS
> Cc: bounce-pll-sis-29486@aallnet.org; Private Law Libraries
> SIS
> Subject: [pll-sis] Re: [BULK] - RE: Excellent idea from Kaye
>
>
>
>
> Similarly to Bennie, I didn't think I would comment, but he
> succinctly said what I had been thinking on all points. It
> is the underlying issues that are at the crux of the
> matter. Regards, Martha
>
> Martha Goldman
> Library Services and Records Manager
> Jones Day
> 222 East 41st Street, 4th floor
> New York, NY 10017
> phone: 212-901-7063
> fax: 212-755-7306
> e-mail: magoldman@jonesday.com
>
>
>
>
"Braxton, Bennie A."
<Bbraxton@sughrue.com> To:
"Private Law Libraries
Sent by: SIS"
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cc:
01/06/2005 02:58 PM Subject:
Please respond to "Braxton, Bennie [BULK] - [pll-sis] RE:
A." Excellent idea from
Kaye ?Spam?
>
>
>
> I guess I can chime in here. I didn't want to go out on a
> limb with so many of my colleagues in favor of this idea.
>
> If nothing else, this dialog highlights the need to improve
> relations with the powers-to-be, which may not necessarily
> be the administrator, or any one person for that matter. We
> need to be heard, appreciated, and supported for our work.
> Let's ask ourselves: Whose picking up the tab for this extra
> lunch? What can you say, while having lunch with an
> administrator, that will benefit the library? Couldn't you
> better emphasize, what you do, what you need, what you see
> in the future for your library, in a carefully crafted
> memo? And, shouldn't the administrator be taking you to
> lunch.
>
> I think we are all correct in that new and creative ways of
> selling our services to the firm are needed. I seriously
> doubt any measurable benefit will come to the library by
> taking an administrator to lunch. Inviting an administrator
> to sit down with you and review day-to-day issues with
> staffing, budgeting, downsizing and the overwhelming
> administrative responsibilities most of us incur will get
> you closer to the Management Committee, which in most cases,
> will have to approve any new ideas anyway.
>
> This is not a new issue, but is heart felt by us all. We
> recognize the need is there and are somehow searching to
> find a way to show the value of our daily efforts. Kaye is
> to be commended for wanting to take action.
>
> In my humble opinion, it is not the way to proceed; besides,
> I already eat to much.
>
>
> Best,
> Bennie Braxton, Librarian
> Sughrue Mion, PLLC.
> Washington, D.C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-pll-sis-28756@aallnet.org
> [mailto:bounce-pll-sis-28756@aallnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Small, Emilie
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:17 PM
> To: Private Law Libraries SIS
> Subject: [pll-sis] RE: Excellent idea from Kaye ?Spam?
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I am
> against this trend of making special days to take
> administration and bosses out. If anything, it should the
> other way around. Appreciation days were originally for
> people who are on the bottom rung, a way for administration
> and bosses to show appreciation to staff. Besides, I can
> go out to lunch with my administrator at any time to discuss
> library matters, and I don't need another special day to use
> up my personal time. I agree with Paula Lichtenberg and
> Rich LaSasso, we don't need a special day to take our
> administrator out to lunch.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Emilie Small (Chadbourne & Parke, LA)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sue Johnson [mailto:SJohnson@CCSB.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:10 AM
> To: Private Law Libraries SIS
> Subject: [pll-sis] Excellent idea from Kaye ?Spam?
>
> Happy New Year, Board,
>
> Kaye Waelde has suggested initiating a "Take Your
> Administrator to Lunch" day, perhaps named for a well known
> and respected private law librarian. I think this a great
> idea, and good PR for all firm librarians. What are your
> opinions, and do you have any suggestions on "naming
> rights"? This project would not require a coordinator,
> would be strictly voluntary, but would perhaps raise our
> status and foster better relations with our CEOs. We could
> post the idea on the listserv, put something in PLL
> Perspectives, ask the Public Relations Committee for
> suggestions on publicizing, etc. If you approve, it would
> be good to get this started as soon as possible (spring or
> early summer).
>
> As always, I value your feedback and if you have any ideas
> on anything else that would enhance the PLL-SIS, please send
> them my way.
>
> Thank you, everyone, for your participation and assistance!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sue
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