Re: All.Info

From: David P. Dillard (jwne@astro.ocis.temple.edu)
Date: Sat Dec 13 2003 - 07:12:18 PST


While we are on this thread of important resource lists on the internet
that serve as directories of internet resources, I would like to share a
few places that I consider very useful in this regard, even though they
may not be put together in directory format, strictly speaking.

First, from a prior message of my own:

Source:

From: AIB-IB Discussion Group <host@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 5:19 pm
Subject: [AIBCenter] International Business Discussion Group - 06/13/02
AIB Worldwide Community Thursday, June 13 2002 Volume 05 : Number 213
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/intlbiz/message/12178>

Quoting:

From: "David P. Dillard"
Subject: 12. RESOURCES : List of Lists and Other Gary Price Web Resources

>From time to time, various of the very valuable resources provided by Gary
Price have been featured on quite a few listing services of important
internet resources. Now George Washington University has shut down the
Server that included the web pages of Gary Price and they have been moved
to the FreePint server in England.

Thus the Off! icial URL of The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk has
changed to http://resourceshelf.freepint.com

The Virtual Chase [Law Research Resources]
< http://www.virtualchase.com/

Fast Facts:
Almanacs/Factbooks/Statistical Reports
& Related Reference Tools

An Acquisition Resource
< http://www.freepint.com/gary/handbook.htm

Price's List of Lists
< http://www.freepint.com/gary/listof.htm

NewsCenter
Up to the Minute News Resources

Compiled by:
Gary Price, MLIS
gprice@g...
Gary Price Research and Library Consulting
http://www.freepint.com/gary/newscenter.htm
Main FreePint Website
http://www.freepint.com/

I am real surprised that Gary forgot that group of excellent internet
resource lists. <g>

I would also propose that the Internet Scout Report is a tremendous
collection of resources for information on the web and has a site search
capability that makes its contents available topically.

Internet Scout Report
<http://scout.cs.wisc.edu/>

If one has not looked at this resource lately, the website has been
extensively redesigned.

Another former Internet Scout Report resource that has subsequently been a
part of the Classroom Connect website and is currently a service of the
Educational Cyberplayground is Gleason Sackmann's Net-Happenings. By
including "net-happenings" as part of a search in Google or Groups Google,
one can search the contents of that extensive listing of internet
resources culled from a variety of discussion group messages over a long
period of time.

Educational Cyberplayground Net-Happenings Current Home:
<http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Community/NetHappenings.html>

Net Happenings Posts and Postings Elsewhere About from Google
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%
22net-happenings%22&btnG=Google+Search>

A shorter link for the above.

<http://snipurl.com/3efe>

Moving the search over to Groups Google

<http://snipurl.com/3efh>

Of course there is bound to be noise in such searches combined with
topical terminology, but they should also lead to some very useful
resources if one combines net-happenings with other concepts. Other
resources use the phrase "net happenings" besides Gleason Sackmann.

For an idea of how such a search works, consider this search for
example:

"net-happenings" and law and constitution

<http://snipurl.com/3efm>

Finally a much more specific directory of internet and online sources that
I think is a valuable resource and is much more powerfully used via its
directory than through its site search capability for those looking for
electronic books, either free or fee, is the Digital Book Index.

From: NetHappenings_Moderator (NetHappenings_Moderator)
Subject: RESOUR> [NetGold] BOOKS: ELECTRONIC: RESOURCES : REFERENCE:
TOOLS: INDEXING AND ABSTRACTING TOOLS: Digital Book Index
<http://snipurl.com/3efr>

I want to thank all who contributed to this thread, and in advance anyone
else who knows of these kinds of resources and contributes. The more
quality places one can find the information that one is searching for, the
better. This is why the availability of more than one very good search
engine on the internet gives researchers using the internet a much better
chance of finding sources for topics and information needs they are
looking to learn about and perhaps different sources on one search engine
not found on another. Also, in this vein, another place to find internet
websites through subject searching is NetFirst, which no longer exists
under that name, but has been folded into the OCLC service's First Search
database Worldcat. The multi-step searching capability of the fee based
Worldcat may find some resources in a complex search topic that might be
difficult to isolate in a search in the web search engines. NetLibrary
books also come up as web resources in Worldcat searches. Worldcat is
available to members in many academic libraries and some public libraries
as also is NetLibrary.

About Netlibrary
<http://snipurl.com/3efu>

The RLG and Worldcat union catalogs are now in the case of RLG and to
become if not already available in part as free services as well:

LIBRARY: ONLINE CATALOGS AND OPACS: National Union Catalogs
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetGold/message/771>

But, in case one is interested in a bit of a stumper, who is trying to
accomplish what with this new resource? I will be interested in answers
or speculation on either who or what or of course both given the existence
of Books in Print, RLG, and Worldcat.

BOOKS: RESOURCES : DATABASES: ISBNDB.COM: A Developing Database of Book
Records Online
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetGold/message/779>

I hope all of the fine people on this discussion group have a wonderful
holiday season.

Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@astro.temple.edu
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetGold/>
<http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ringleaders/davidd.html>
<http://www.kovacs.com/medref-l/medref-l.html>

If you notice crumbs on your floor after using the internet on your
computer, it may very well be from cookies. Not to worry, however,
because the mouse is certain to clean them up. Thanks to Maggie Tyler,
footwear professional, for assistance in the creation of this bit of
wisdom.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, gary wrote:

> Laura:
> While the ODP is a well-known project and used my many directories I've found
> that it has a few issues that I worthy of note. This doesn't make the project
> worthy of attention but I think they are worthy mentioning.

> 1) You are correct, many dirctories are "powered" by ODP data. However, no
> directory owner is "required" to download updates and corrections. You can find
> a list of ODP powered sites at:

<http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Searching/Directories/
Open_Directory_Project/Sites_Using_ODP_Data/>

> 2) Maintenance issues.
> Example:

<http://directory.google.com/Top/Regional/North_America/United_States/
Government/Elections/Presidential/1996/?il=1>

> (Google uses ODP data)
> The page for Clinton/Gore entry is no longer "official". Btw, having a listing
> in the ODP is factored into how results are placed on a Google results page.

<http://directory.google.com/Top/Regional/North_America/United_States/
Government/Elections/Presidential/1996/?il=1>

> 3) They don't list a collection development policy. Who is responsible for a
> section if an editor drops out?
>
> Finally, a point of info,
> Although the directory is a volunteer effort, it is administered by Time Warner
> (current owners of Netscape). They also hold the copyright. If TW decides to
> shut the project down who will own the directory?
> ---
> ---

> While we're on the topic of non-commercial directories I would like to mention
> four that are built, annotated, and maintained by librarians.

> A) The Librarians' Index to the Internet
> http://www.lii.org

> B) Infomine
> http://infomine.ucr.edu

> C) Resource Discovery Network
> http://rdn.ac.uk

> At this url you can search several subject directories simultaneously or go
> direct to each directory. Very impressive. The SOSIG directory focuses on
> social sciences. http://www.sosig.ac.uk/

> The Law section of SOSIG just won a major award.
> http://www.sosig.ac.uk/law/

> D) The Internet Public Library
> http://www.ipl.org

> cheers,
> gary



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