Gibberish URLs

From: Barbie Selby (bms8z@cms.mail.virginia.edu)
Date: Wed Jan 24 2001 - 09:18:01 PST


These HORRIBLE URLs come from using some sort of program like Lotus Notes
which assigns URLs either interactively or in some other gosh awful
way. UVA uses Lotus Notes and the "real" URL for a page I maintain is:
         http://www.law.virginia.edu/lawweb/lawweb2.nsf/pages/lev2calc?OpenDocument&Fr1=indexview/9Library&Fr2=/lawweb\lawweb2.nsf/pages/LawIndex

However, at the top of the page I say:

     To link to this page use the URL: http://www.law.virginia.edu/admindec

There is usually a way to have a shorter, more understandable URL in these
cases. Might be worth lobbying agencies to do this.

Barbie Selby
UVA Law Library

At 09:01 AM 1/24/01 -0800, Moffitt, Bess wrote:

>And have you noticed that when the State of California, for example
>revamped its web site, many old simple URLs are now long queries, with
>relative addresses?
>
>The single link to government agencies has been changed to this monstrosity:
><http://www.ca.gov/state/portal/myca_leftnav_categories.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1729203283.0980355445@@@@&BV_EngineID=jaljlleidlhbemfcfkmchcgi.0&sLeftNavCategoryPath=%2fNavigation%2fGovernment&sNavTitle=Government>http://www.ca.gov/state/portal/myca_leftnav_categories.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1729203283.0980355445@@@@&BV_EngineID=jaljlleidlhbemfcfkmchcgi.0&sLeftNavCategoryPath=%2fNavigation%2fGovernment&sNavTitle=Government
>
>It makes maintaining my firm's intranet pages a difficult task.
>I know that I should link to main pages only, but these attorneys don't
>want to spend time learning to navigate to many levels.
>
> Bess
>-----Original Message----- From: David McFadden
>[SMTP:dmcfadden@swlaw.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:50
>AM To: Moffitt, Bess Cc: 'Grady, William H.';
>'law-lib@ucdavis.edu' Subject: Re: State of the White House Web Site
>
>I don't know if others have had similar problems but we experienced the
>same difficulties in California when the governor's office shifted from
>one party to another. Links to vital state information were eliminated
>from the official State of California homepage. If you had the old URL
>you could sometimes get the information. I could understand changes on a
>governor's homepage but not the official state homepage. Over time the
>old types of information started coming back. Hopefully this will be the
>case with the new White house page as well. I agree that certain
>information and links shouldn't change from administration to
>administration on the White House and other governmental pages but I'm not
>optimistic. "Moffitt, Bess" wrote:
> This sounds like a job for the Internet Archive
> <<http://www.archive.org/>http://www.archive.org/> They are literally
> taking "snapshots" of the web. The new White House site is very skimpy
> on content. An article in Wired News has an interview with Jakob Nielsen
> (who is Mr. Web Usability) discussing the site.
> <<http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,41325,00.html>http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,41325,00.html>
> This is a case when there should be non-partisan information on one part
> of the site that doesn't change with the administration. Bess
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> bmoffitt@mdbe.com -----Original Message----- From: Grady,
> William H. [SMTP:WHGRADY@PHJW.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001
> 8:00 AM To: 'law-lib@ucdavis.edu' Subject: State of the White
> House Web Site In the first change of administration in the
> White House in the Internet era, what happened to the full and complete
> Clinton www.whitehouse.gov <
> <<http://www.whitehouse.gov>http://www.whitehouse.gov>> site as it
> existed, say, last Friday? It looks to me like the new administration
> has simply purged the whole of the preexisting site and replaced it with
> the embryonic new Bush site. Does anyone know what happened to
> the Clinton White House site? Is it available at all today in any
> form? I hope that this is not a harbinger of changes to come on
> all the other government websites. It does make the absolutely
> most classic example of the transient nature of the Web to answer anyone
> who views the Web as the be all and end all of research. You wonder if
> Gore, who, of course invented the internet, would have done the same
> thing.
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