[IAMSLIC:1941] re: another view on AGU's position on DOI

From: Peter Brueggeman (pbrueggeman@UCSD.Edu)
Date: Fri May 10 2002 - 10:08:46 PDT

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    Jon, It doesn't have to function as a URL; my point being to create a simple
    citation to co-exist with the DOI (not to replace the DOI). I don't argue
    against the necessity to use DOIs, an important technological underpinning, but
    I don't understand why the technological underpinning, the DOI, has to be the
    only citation scheme supported by AGU. If creating alternate, short
    user-friendly URLs like Journal of Insect Science is problematic for a publisher
    to maintain, then don't do it. Create a short non-URL user-friendly citation
    scheme that incorporates the volume, issue, and article number, or whatever
    elements will identify an article succinctly. Keep it short and user-friendly.
    I understand the desireability for users to use the DOI as the only citation
    scheme, but we don't live in a perfect error-free world. I look forward to
    seeing the user experience develop with DOI citations. Maybe the scientists
    will have no problem using correct DOIs in their citations, and I am misjudging
    them based on my extensive past experience with the current citation practice.
    I truly wish AGU well with e-publishing; it's time for me to leave the discourse
    to others. .....Peter
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    From: "jsears" <jsears@agu.org>
    To: "Peter Brueggeman" <pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu>
    Cc: "IAMSLIC" <iamslic@ucdavis.edu>; "GEONET" <geonet@purdue.edu>; "ASLI"
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    Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:34 AM
    Subject: Re: [IAMSLIC:1930] re: another view on AGU's position on DOI

    : Peter Brueggeman wrote:
    :
    : > replacing that already imperfect scheme with a longer DOI citation
    : > format involving more numbers will be problematic.
    : <snip>
    : > A solution would be to replace sequential pagination (which people
    : > mess up as we all know) with an even simpler article numbering scheme
    : > as Henry Hagedorn suggested, in order to keep it simple. I can reach
    : > his ejournal's online article on the Web simply with
    : > "insectscience.org/2.7" as the URL.
    : >
    :
    : But will that URL be the same in the future? Other publishers might come
    : up with many different such schemas. The DOI is designed to be
    : persistent.
    : Think of it as an electronic equivalent of the ISBN, only on steroids.
    : The DOI is an implementation of the CNRI Handle System. With a simple
    : plugin or by using a dedicated proxy server, browsers can recognize
    : a DOI and resolve it to its corresponding URL(s), leading to the online
    : article. See http://www.doi.org/about_the_doi.html
    :
    : Jon Sears, AGU



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