[IAMSLIC:1884] Re: pagination

From: Peter Brueggeman (pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu)
Date: Wed May 01 2002 - 15:21:13 PDT

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    That is a perfect solution, fitting the principle to "keep it simple." Since we
    know that people occasionally get their citations wrong or incomplete in the
    current format which includes pagination, shifting to sole reliance upon a
    longer format with more numbers will be problematic. Some will focus on the
    death of the page in their reaction to our letter, and fail to address whether
    co-existing citation schemes are possible. That's the issue, whether it is
    possible to have a simplified and co-existing citation scheme with the longer
    DOI. As we suggest in our letter, a shorter citation scheme can have article
    numbering, which your citation scheme addresses. Perhaps AGU can find some
    middle ground, and come up with a user-friendly citation scheme co-existing with
    the computer-friendly DOI. .......Peter

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Henry Hagedorn" <jis@insectscience.org>
    To: <Roger.Kelly@stonybrook.edu>; <mcnutt@mbari.org>; <pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu>;
    <iamslic@ucdavis.edu>; <asli@www.lib.noaa.gov>
    Cc: <williamsk@u.library.arizona.edu>; <pfanderj@u.library.arizona.edu>
    Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:51 AM
    Subject: pagination

    : Regarding the controversy over the AGU not using page numbers for their
    papers.
    :
    : I am editor of a new on line journal, the Journal of Insect Science,
    : that also does not use page numbers in its citations. This journal
    : is published by the University of Arizona and is free on line
    : (www.insectscience.org). No print version is published. Our
    : citations look like this:
    :
    : Dunkov, B.C., Georgieva, T., Yoshiga, T., Hall, M., Law, J.H. 2002.
    : Aedes aegypti ferritin heavy chain homologue: feeding of iron or
    : blood influences message levels, lengths and subunit abundance. 10
    : pp. Journal of Insect Science, 2.7. Available online:
    : insectscience.org/2.7
    :
    : In this citation the total number of pages (10 pp.) is taken from the
    : pdf version which can be downloaded from the site. The volume number
    : and paper number (2.7) guide the reader to the paper. Papers are
    : published as they are accepted, so issues do not exist.
    :
    : Our decision not to use page numbers was a simple recognition of the
    : fact that the paper only exists on line and page numbers do not exist
    : in an HTML document. Adding up page numbers based on the pdf version
    : seemed rather nonsensical. We are obviously not using DOI as it
    : would provide no advantage to a journal like ours.
    :
    : Regards,
    : Henry Hagedorn
    : Editor
    : Journal of Insect Science.
    :
    : Dr. Henry H. Hagedorn
    : Department of Entomology and Center for Insect Science
    : 410 Forbes
    : University of Arizona
    : Tucson, AZ 85721
    : phone: 520-621-5358
    : FAX: 520-621-1150



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