Adam E. Abraham (digital@earthlink.net)
Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:45:47 -0700
Thank you Norm for the insights... and Amber for the follow-on question...
they were both quite helpful.
Everyone learns in their own way... this is ours. But we're in full
agreement here... and willing to make changes. I've heard the same positive
sentiments about Canopus, though not much about the DigitSuite before you
(though we had read about their product).
I'm forwarding your post to my partner (who has the money to spend)... he is
much more willing to consider higher-cost options than before. Experience
has a way of making one to be a bit more err... "willing". :-)
We are going to be seeing a demonstration of Digital Origin's new EditDV for
Windows next week at a friend's place who dropped Premiere a couple months
ago and has been a satisfied and favorably impressed beta tester for the
product.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Adam...
----- Original Message -----
From: J. Norman Kern <kvp@erinet.com>
To: <digvid-l@ucdavis.edu>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Can Premiere Handle Feature-length Film Editing?
> Amber:
>
> Perhaps you are skeptical of my statement, and that's understandable.
> I'll start by telling you what I use, then what I consider to be more
> reliable inexpensive systems, some background on my viewpoint, and
> finally my practical concern for someone who is trying to edit a feature
> film with Premiere.
>
> My situation:
>
> I am a full Digisuite user. This system is expensive by MotoDV
> standards, cheap by Avid standards.
>
> >From the NT perspective, Digisuite LE combined with Incite or United
> Media Online Express is very powerful for the money, offering a lot of
> real time power at low cost. (Digisuite LE currently lists for $3995 and
> Incite and United Media are going for 2-3k each.)
>
> Lower cost solutions:
>
> I don't have personal experience with Promax or Canopus, which are less
> expensive than the Digisuite solutions, but I certainly have read posts
> from many satisfied users on this and other lists.
>
> Lots of people really like Final Cut, which has garnered a lot of
> enthusiasm and support for the very short time it has been out.
>
> A little background:
>
> I don't intend to put the Premiere folks down. For several years, I did
> nonlinear editing on an old Matrox Studio. This single stream editor
> just did AB roll with tile and slide transitions. It had a graphics line
> that supported alpha keying. It did handle batch digitizing and print to
> tape well with time code. Transitions and graphics layering wer done
> with hardware and printed to disk at about 6 frames per second. This
> system, which ran on a 486 PC with only 32mb of RAM was not fast, but I
> edited many projects with the client present. It was not fast and it was
> not bug free.
>
> I bought my Digisuite hardware 1-1/2 years ago when there was little
> software for it. I tried out Premiere and Ulead Media Studio on it. I
> quickly saw that I could never be even marginally productive with those
> applications even compared to my old Studio editor.
>
> The new version of Premiere is undoubtedly much better than 4.2, but
> editing a feature film?
>
> Editing a feature film with Premiere:
>
> In order to get anywhere with a feature film you need all the help you
> can get. This field is _very_ competitive. Some of the most talented and
> experienced people working in this field have virtually unlimited
> resources. To go against the odds like this, you don't need to have your
> time, temper, and creativity diluted by software bugs, arcane
> workarounds, and waiting for long renders on things that could easily be
> done in real time on more capable systems. It's like having one hand
> tied behind your back.
>
> Even if you place only a small value on your time, how much of it can
> you afford to waste? Any simple cost/benefit analysis would show the
> cost effectiveness of using a faster, more productive system than
> MotoDV/Premiere to edit a feature film.
>
> What if there just isn't money available for anything better? You have
> to ask yourself if the project is viable if it can't attract any more
> financial support than that....
>
>
> Norm Kern
> Kern Video Productions
>
>
> Amber Morey Wu wrote:
> >
> > >It's strange to hear someone struggling to use Premiere to edit feature
> > >films, when there are so many more reliable nle solutions out there,
> > >including some very inexpensive ones.
> >
> > Norm,
> >
> > It may help the person if you mention _which_ other "more reliable" NLE
> > solutions that you are referring to, particulary the inexpensive ones.
I
> > am curious to hear.
> >
> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> > Amber Morey Wu
> > http://www.swingmedia.com
> >
> > Now on the air:
> > http://www.slackertv.com - a coffee break for your mind
> >
> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> > Amber Morey Wu
> > http://www.swingmedia.com
> >
> > Now on the air:
> > http://www.slackertv.com - a coffee break for your mind
>
>
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