[CALMAP:618] Re: [UCMAPS] FW: Social Explorer UC subscription

From: Cynthia Jahns (cjahns@ucsc.edu)
Date: Thu May 07 2009 - 13:18:18 PDT

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    ~ Cynthia

    On May 6, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Hughes, Tracey wrote:

    > If you all could help me out with a good suggestion for her, that
    > would be great! I don’t want to and never was meant to be her point
    > of contact but I can’t seem to shake her!! All I did was ask for a
    > quote for our budget purposes!!
    >
    > I know we talked about this as a group, but Social Explorer
    > obviously has wider applicability than our UC/S map group…any
    > suggestions would be great.
    >
    > J
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Tracey Hughes
    > GIS Coordinator, Social Sciences & Humanities Library
    > University of California San Diego
    > http://govinfo.ucsd.edu/gis/
    >
    > Phone: (858) 534-1266
    > Email: t2hughes at ucsd.edu
    >
    > From: Laura Gilliland [mailto:laura@socialexplorer.com]
    > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:36 PM
    > To: Hughes, Tracey
    > Subject: Re: Social Explorer UC subscription
    >
    > Dear Tracey,
    >
    > Thank you so much for your insight. I agree, it's a little
    > difficult to know who to propose our services to for a system wide
    > agreement. I can tell you that we could very easily negotiate a
    > price for the entire system that would be somewhere around 30% off
    > the individual subscriptions if all campuses were to
    > participate......which would be a wonderful bargain. Is there an
    > avenue via the UC Library Techology Advisory Group that would be
    > appropriate to contact? I can see from the LTAG website that Sam
    > Dunlap from UCSD is the president.
    >
    > I don't feel that I can give up on UC as we have had several
    > requests for information from a number of the campuses, and UCLA is
    > one of our biggest users. We track usage at all of the campuses and
    > there is interest. Given the economy, I would think that at the very
    > least, it would be beneficial for the system to take advantage of
    > the free premium trial for a month.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Laura Gilliland
    > Social Explorer Inc.
    > Phone: 510-499-3040
    > Fax: 718-228-3607
    > laura@socialexplorer.com
    > www.socialexplorer.com
    >
    > Main Office:
    > Social Explorer Inc.
    > 50 Merriam Ave.
    > Bronxville, NY 10708
    > Phone: 718-360-5008
    > Fax: 718-228-3607
    >
    > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Hughes, Tracey <T2Hughes@ucsd.edu>
    > wrote:
    > Hi Laura,
    >
    > I think we're all well aware of the product in the UC Map librarian
    > circle as we've discussed the product as a potential purchase.
    > However, as you know, the UC system is a complex one with almost
    > innumerable different departments and individuals. As an overall
    > strategy to access/expose Social Explorer across the system, I don't
    > have much to offer other than what you are currently doing.
    >
    > >From the Social Sciences & Humanities Library at UCSD, we certainly
    > see value in your product but we just don't know if we have the
    > budgetary capacity to purchase it at $2000 (or even slightly less
    > with the consortial pricing) annually.
    >
    > We will certainly let you know when we've reached a decision about
    > what we can do.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Tracey Hughes
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Laura Gilliland [mailto:laura@socialexplorer.com]
    > Sent: Tue 4/28/2009 5:59 PM
    > To: Hughes, Tracey
    > Cc: Ahmed Lacevic
    > Subject: Re: Social Explorer UC subscription
    >
    > Hello Tracey,
    > Thank you for the continued interest in Social Explorer. The
    > gentleman that
    > I have spoken to at UC Berkeley is:
    >
    > Harrison G. DEKKER, MLIS +1 510 250-7901
    > hdekker@library.berkeley.edu
    >
    > Harrison is having some of his colleagues review the website. He
    > mentioned
    > that if the UC system were to subscribe, that he would be involved
    > in the
    > set-up of the subscription. Perhaps you know him? It's interesting
    > because
    > we have had interest from end-users from 5 or 6 of the UC campuses
    > over the
    > last year. I think setting up the system with a free 30 day trial
    > would be
    > most informative for the end-users and decision makers. It's a
    > wonderful
    > resourse to take advantage of as a free trial, and would inform any
    > decisions about the value of subsriptions. I'll have to admit, I'm
    > not sure
    > what the best path is to orient this product to the entire UC
    > system. Do
    > you have any thoughts on that that you could share with me?
    >
    > Best,
    > Laura Gilliland
    > Social Explorer Inc.
    > Phone: 510-499-3040
    > Fax: 718-228-3607
    > laura@socialexplorer.com
    > www.socialexplorer.com
    >
    > Main Office:
    > Social Explorer Inc.
    > 50 Merriam Ave.
    > Bronxville, NY 10708
    > Phone: 718-360-5008
    > Fax: 718-228-3607
    >
    >
    > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Hughes, Tracey <T2Hughes@ucsd.edu>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Thank you Ahmed. We'll be in touch if we are able to purchase the
    > > resource. J
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Tracey Hughes
    > >
    > > GIS Coordinator, Social Sciences & Humanities Library
    > >
    > > University of California San Diego
    > >
    > > http://govinfo.ucsd.edu/gis/
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Phone: (858) 534-1266
    > >
    > > Email: t2hughes at ucsd.edu
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > *From:* alacevic@gmail.com [mailto:alacevic@gmail.com] *On Behalf
    > Of *Ahmed
    > > Lacevic
    > > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:38 AM
    > >
    > > *To:* Hughes, Tracey
    > > *Cc:* Laura Gilliland
    > > *Subject:* Re: Social Explorer UC subscription
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Dear Tracey,
    > >
    > > Attached is a formal quote. I realize that UCLA is currently a
    > subscriber
    > > so we would give UCSD and UCLA a 10% discount if UCSD subscribes.
    > We would
    > > treat this as a consortium because you are part of the same school
    > system.
    > >
    > > regards,
    > >
    > > Ahmed
    > >
    > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Hughes, Tracey <T2Hughes@ucsd.edu>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi Ahmed,
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > A PDF or Word document that reflects the price and the price with
    > the
    > > consortia discount at the different levels of participation would
    > be great.
    > > While a trial is nice, what I'm seeking right now is just the
    > quote. J
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Tracey Hughes
    > >
    > > GIS Coordinator, Social Sciences & Humanities Library
    > >
    > > University of California San Diego
    > >
    > > http://govinfo.ucsd.edu/gis/
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Phone: (858) 534-1266
    > >
    > > Email: t2hughes at ucsd.edu
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > *From:* alacevic@gmail.com [mailto:alacevic@gmail.com] *On Behalf
    > Of *Ahmed
    > > Lacevic
    > > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 5:00 PM
    > > *To:* Hughes, Tracey
    > > *Cc:* Laura Gilliland
    > >
    > >
    > > *Subject:* Re: Social Explorer UC subscription
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Hello Tracey,
    > >
    > > The *regular* price for UCSD is $2,000 annually.
    > >
    > > How would you like me to provide you with a "formal" quote? Would
    > you like
    > > me to write a Word document with the quote in it?
    > >
    > > We also have consortia discounts and UCLA is already a member. Laura
    > > Gilliland, our local sales rep in CA, is actually working on
    > getting a trial
    > > set up for the whole system. I am not sure what the state of
    > development on
    > > that is, but she can fill you in on that.
    > >
    > > She is currently traveling to Alaska, but is available by email
    > and perhaps
    > > phone. *
    > >
    > > *Her contact info:
    > > Name: Laura Gilliland
    > > Email: laura@socialexplorer.com
    > > Phone: 510-499-3040
    > >
    > > regards,
    > >
    > > Ahmed
    > >
    > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Hughes, Tracey <T2Hughes@ucsd.edu>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > Hello Ahmed,
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I'm wondering if you can provide a more formal quote for Social
    > Explorer.
    > > I'm not certain if we will be able to purchase it at that cost and
    > because
    > > it's an annual subscription. However, to better consider the
    > resource, we
    > > need a more formal quote. Please let me know if you have any
    > questions.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Tracey Hughes
    > >
    > > GIS Coordinator, Social Sciences & Humanities Library
    > >
    > > University of California San Diego
    > >
    > > http://govinfo.ucsd.edu/gis/
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Phone: (858) 534-1266
    > >
    > > Email: t2hughes at ucsd.edu
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > *From:* alacevic@gmail.com [mailto:alacevic@gmail.com] *On Behalf
    > Of *Ahmed
    > > Lacevic
    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:28 PM
    > > *To:* Hughes, Tracey
    > >
    > >
    > > *Cc:* Andrew A Beveridge; Joanne Lumaban
    > >
    > > *Subject:* Re: Social Explorer UC subscription
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Dear Tracey,
    > >
    > > Social Explorer costs $2,000 annually. We do have consortia
    > discounts as
    > > follows:
    > > 2-4 members 10%
    > > 5 - 10 members 20%
    > > 10 - 15 members 30%
    > > > 15 members 40%
    > >
    > > Of course, we can bill you a few years in advance. That is not a
    > problem.
    > >
    > >
    > > We will be at the ACRL conference (Association of College and
    > Research
    > > Libraries) in Seattle! If someone from the UCSD is coming, they
    > can visit
    > > us at booth #742. We will be giving demos and talking to
    > librarians. We
    > > also have a new brochure. It is a tri-fold brochure so we have it
    > as two
    > > files, front and back available here:
    > >
    > > Inside of the brochure:
    > > http://www.socialexplorer.com/SE_8.5x11_IN_v7.pdf
    > >
    > > outside:
    > > http://www.socialexplorer.com/SE_8.5x11_OUT_v7.pdf
    > >
    > > If you have any questions, you may contact me by email or call
    > > 718-360-5008.
    > >
    > >
    > > regards,
    > >
    > > Ahmed
    > >
    > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Hughes, Tracey
    > <T2Hughes@ucsd.edu> wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi Ahmed,
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > How timely that you emailed me today! I have a few emails in my
    > inbox
    > > about Social Explorer and the possibility of purchasing it as a
    > resource for
    > > our students. We are curious to know the price for Social
    > Explorer as well
    > > as an maintenance costs/annual fees. Is there a consortium price
    > for the
    > > UCs (just curious about this - don't have any commitments or
    > comments from
    > > other UCs at this time)? And if there is an annual fee/
    > subscription cost,
    > > would it be possible to consider billing us in such a way that we
    > would pay
    > > for somewhere between 3 - 5 years of this cost as part of the
    > initial
    > > price? We are in a budget situation where continuations are not
    > moving
    > > through the system so this could be a workaround for us.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Again, thank you for your timely email!
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Tracey Hughes
    > >
    > > GIS Coordinator, Social Sciences & Humanities Library
    > >
    > > University of California San Diego
    > >
    > > http://govinfo.ucsd.edu/gis/
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Phone: (858) 534-1266
    > >
    > > Email: t2hughes at ucsd.edu
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > *From:* alacevic@gmail.com [mailto:alacevic@gmail.com] *On Behalf
    > Of *Ahmed
    > > Lacevic
    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:55 PM
    > > *To:* Hughes, Tracey
    > > *Cc:* Tim Schwartz
    > > *Subject:* Fwd: Social Explorer UC subscription
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Dear Tracey,
    > >
    > > I was wondering what had happened to the trial of Social Explorer
    > you did
    > > last year?
    > >
    > > I received an email today from a student who was wondering if
    > access was
    > > available at UCSD.
    > >
    > > I know there was a budget crisis in CA, but I was wondering how
    > the review
    > > went and if Social Explorer is maybe on the list of resources that
    > were
    > > under consideration for future.
    > >
    > > regards,
    > >
    > > Ahmed Lacevic
    > >
    > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    > > From: *Tim Schwartz* <tcschwar@ucsd.edu>
    > > Date: Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM
    > > Subject: university of california subscription
    > > To: info@socialexplorer.com
    > >
    > >
    > > to whom it may concern:
    > >
    > > i am a graduate student in the visual arts department at ucsd. i was
    > > wondering if any of the university of california schools have
    > > subscriptions to your service. i'm poor and can't afford anyting
    > > personally, so was wondering if there is a campus i can go to for
    > > access.
    > >
    > > my past informational sculputres are available here ->
    > > http://www.timschwartz.org
    > >
    > > thanks,
    > > tim schwartz
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ahmed Lacevic
    > > Vice President
    > > Social Explorer Inc.
    > > 50 Merriam Ave
    > > Bronxville, NY 10708
    > > Phone: 718-360-5008
    > > Mobile: 718-208-3075
    > > Fax: 718-228-3607
    > > alacevic@socialexplorer.com
    > > www.socialexplorer.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ahmed Lacevic
    > > Vice President
    > > Social Explorer Inc.
    > > 50 Merriam Ave
    > > Bronxville, NY 10708
    > > Phone: 718-360-5008
    > > Mobile: 718-208-3075
    > > Fax: 718-228-3607
    > > alacevic@socialexplorer.com
    > > www.socialexplorer.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ahmed Lacevic
    > > Vice President
    > > Social Explorer Inc.
    > > 50 Merriam Ave
    > > Bronxville, NY 10708
    > > Phone: 718-360-5008
    > > Mobile: 718-208-3075
    > > Fax: 718-228-3607
    > > alacevic@socialexplorer.com
    > > www.socialexplorer.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ahmed Lacevic
    > > Vice President
    > > Social Explorer Inc.
    > > 50 Merriam Ave
    > > Bronxville, NY 10708
    > > Phone: 718-360-5008
    > > Mobile: 718-208-3075
    > > Fax: 718-228-3607
    > > alacevic@socialexplorer.com
    > > www.socialexplorer.com
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Cynthia Jahns
    Head, Maps Unit and Librarian for Environmental Toxicology &
    Science Communication

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